[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Just be grateful your electric is so cheap. In UK, it is app. 30+ cents a KWH.

Dutch TTF is about 5X costlier than Henry Hub NatGas. The EU needs to annex Russia to West Siberia in order to get cheap and unlimited NatGas...I think that's the plan...wink...wink

[Paulz]

We are on a SECO Plan with variable rates throughout the day…midnight-6am .069/kw. Both our Tesla and STAR Sirius are set to charge in that time slot.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Paulz

We are on a SECO Plan with variable rates throughout the day…midnight-6am .069/kw. Both our Tesla and STAR Sirius are set to charge in that time slot.

Do you have a special electric meter on the house? What village do you live?

[Maker]

Here is my last 2 years of SECO cost. Total bill divided by total KW gives cost for cents per KWH

14.93 April 2022
14.36
15.27
15.33
15.24
17.46
17.79
19.21
18.63
19.63
19.01
18.57
17.29
16.44
16.14
16.09
16.30
13.02
13.97
15.08
15.42
14.75
15.06
14.71 March 2024

[Southwest737]

Originally Posted by HORNET

What about the cost of new batteries every few years?

I am on year 8 with my EZGO with lithium. Zero maintenance with a tiny notice in battery degradation. I lied. Maintenance includes new tires and a light bulb. Batteries good for at least 5 more years. Fuel cost a penny per mile. I have saved thousands of $$ in fuel and maintenance with this quick, quiet, efficient cart. 70-80 mile range more than adequate. You couldn’t give me an antiquated ICE powered cart. Well, you could but I would sell it.

[Southwest737]

Originally Posted by Paulz

We are on a SECO Plan with variable rates throughout the day…midnight-6am .069/kw. Both our Tesla and STAR Sirius are set to charge in that time slot.

I am on the SECO EV incentive which gives us a $7 per month credit. I see nothing on their website about variable rate plan. Although I have heard they plan to start a time based rate plan once all customers have the smart meters installed.

[UpNorth]

Originally Posted by Southwest737

I am on year 8 with my EZGO with lithium. Zero maintenance with a tiny notice in battery degradation. I lied. Maintenance includes new tires and a light bulb. Batteries good for at least 5 more years. Fuel cost a penny per mile. I have saved thousands of $$ in fuel and maintenance with this quick, quiet, efficient cart. 70-80 mile range more than adequate. You couldn’t give me an antiquated ICE powered cart. Well, you could but I would sell it.

You mean you haven't run out of juice at least once a week? And that the cart has not burst into flames in your garage? And you don't miss the smell, noise and vibration of a gas cart? Come on now!

[MorTech]

Pretty amazing that running an EZGO Elite is equivalent to running a 90W incandescent bulb.

[Two Bills]

If I ever had to part with my current ICE car, I think I would favor the Hybrid.
Prius seems very economical, and popular.
The only thing that would put me off buying one, is they are so bl**dy UGLY!

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

If I ever had to part with my current ICE car, I think I would favor the Hybrid.
Prius seems very economical, and popular.
The only thing that would put me off buying one, is they are so bl**dy UGLY!

2025 Camry is a better value.

[PoolBrews]

Originally Posted by HORNET

What about the cost of new batteries every few years?

The 205ah lithium battery from Evolution has a 5 year full warranty and a life expectancy of 3000 charging cycles. A charging cycle is not every time you plug it in - 1 cycle = 100% charge. If I drive the cart down to 50%, then charge it, that's .5 cycles.

I've got 1,500 miles on my cart in 5 months with 21.5 cycles. If you extrapolate that it equates to 210,000 miles and 58 years.

No where near close to "every few years".

I'm pretty sure I'm going to want a new cart before I need a new battery. Replacement cost for a new battery is currently $3K. If something happens and I need a new battery after the warranty expires, I fully expect the prices on lithium batteries to be significantly less... but I've never kept a vehicle for 5 years anyway.

Getting an Evolution D5 saved me over $10K from buying a Star, EZ-Go or fully loaded Yamaha, and I have more features and a better ride than any of them.

I could replace my battery 3 times and still have saved money.

FYI - My old cart was a Yamaha Drive 2 fully loaded with El Tigre seats.

[MorTech]

Did the test with same operating conditions but with tire pressure at 30 PSI.

Got right at 80 watt-hours per mile or 0.67 cents per mile.

Just tire rolling resistance makes a big difference...gas or electric. The ride on the EZGO Elite is quite uncomfortable at that tire pressure.