[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Nope.

SECO charges 11.2 cents/KWh - 3 cents/KWh "Hot Bucks" rebate and then taxed at 2.5625%

(11.2 - 3)*1.025625 = 8.4 cents/KWh

(NOTE: There is also a $1.15/day charge but since that is paid whether you charge the cart or not I left it out of these calculations)

My EZGo recharges at a rate of 5 or 6 miles of range per hour of charging. At a maximum rate of 10A on a 110V circuit that works out to be between 1.6 and 1.8 cents per mile. If the charger does not draw the full 10A over the entire charging period then the cost per mile is less.

Correct. I sold my golf cart, as I wasn’t using it, but I drive a 2020 Prius Prime that has a battery I recharge on 110 from a standard outlet in my garage. This gives me 27 miles of driving on battery alone before the gas engine kicks in. My rough estimation, based on SECO’s 11 cents per KWH, and using the amount of recharging the owner’s manual says I can get, works out to TWO CENTS PER MILE. For electricity. I doubt that this costs me more than about $5 a month. Meanwhile, after four years in The Villages, not needing the gas engine very often, and with almost 50,000 miles on the car, its gas usage works out to 150 MPG. Not bad.

[Southwest737]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Interesting, but golf cart fuel, be it gas or electric, is chump change. I’m way more concerned with the upcoming release of the seasonal golf rates.

Electric cost to power an EV cart is chump change (about a penny per mile). Gasoline cart fuel cost is 5 to 6 times higher. That chump change becomes thousands of dollars difference over the long haul.

[Southwest737]

Originally Posted by biker1

Nope. Take your total bill and divide by the number of kWhs you consumed and you will get approximately 14 cents per kWh. That is the real amount you are paying per kWh. The hot buck discount is not applied all the time - appears to be mostly a winter adjustment. The rate is 13.2 cents per kWh over 1000 kWhs which is hard to avoid in the summer, which is also when the hot bucks discount isn’t being applied. If you want to only deal with the incremental cost per kWh in the months with no PCA then it is effectively 13.5 cents per kWh.

At the charger, typical use is 200 watt-hours per mile and the charger pulls about 10 amps.

SECOs juice mostly from natural gas power plants so the PCA has been 3 cents since October last year due to how cheap natty gas has been.
When I figure how much it cost to power a device I do not factor in the $1.15 per day. That is a fixed cost for being hooked to the grid. If I use zero kWh last month then the bill is $35. This month i powered one appliance and used one kWh. My bill is $35.08. It only cost me 8 cents to power that appliance.

[claudekaz]

if you are that worried about .14 cents, get a GAS CART !!!

[bragones]

Interesting post. I only used a kill-watt- meter once on my Evolution with a 205 amp lithium battery. I found the charger to use 1200watts (about the same as a toaster oven or hair dryer). The cart charged in an hour after driving 10 miles.

1200 watts/hour, 1 hour = 10 miles. 1.2 kwh x ~.12cents/kwh comes out to aprox 1.45 cents/mile.

Once I saw how reasonable it was, I didn’t take any more readings but this post has me second guessing so I will take more.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by MorTech

EZGO RXV Elite Lithium cart - Kill-A-Watt meter at the wall - Tire PSI 20 - 85F - Cruising around TV MMPs:

Measured 89whs per mile at 0.0083 cents per watt-hour or 0.74 cents per mile.

It would be nice to have people with other brands of lithium carts conduct this same test. A Kill-A-Watt meter is about 30 bucks at Ace/HD/Lowes/Amazon.

My ‘09 Yamaha is paid for, burns about $10 gas a month and is typically in use four or five days a week for 6 or 7 miles a day. That’s about 8 to 10 cents a mile.

[Two Bills]

Just be grateful your electric is so cheap. In UK, it is app. 30+ cents a KWH.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by Southwest737

Electric cost to power an EV cart is chump change (about a penny per mile). Gasoline cart fuel cost is 5 to 6 times higher. That chump change becomes thousands of dollars difference over the long haul.

We're old. We don't have a long haul.

[ehonour]

Originally Posted by spinner1001

The reason for the particular analysis should determine whether you use marginal versus average.
Discuss.

This discussion is a great example of why we should all be cautious about believing statistics. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics." (Mark Twain)

And note that fuel cost is only one part of the difference between the cost of a gas cart vs. the cost of an electric cart. What about battery replacement? Both need it, but at what frequency and what cost? What about costs unique to a gas engine, such as annual oil changes and other maintenance? What about costs unique to an electric engine, such as brush changes and other maintenance?

[HORNET]

I have had two Yamaha gas carts since moving here. I have a friend neighbor who on his third set of batteries since 2010 at about $1200.00 a pop. I know that I didn’t put $3000.00 on gas since that time. Maybe new type batteries, but the older that an electric cart gets, you could have other costs!

[HORNET]

What about the cost of new batteries every few years?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by HORNET

What about the cost of new batteries every few years?

A little bit more than every few years, 8 to 12 years or approximately 1,700 to 3,500 hours.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

Correct. I sold my golf cart, as I wasn’t using it, but I drive a 2020 Prius Prime that has a battery I recharge on 110 from a standard outlet in my garage. This gives me 27 miles of driving on battery alone before the gas engine kicks in. My rough estimation, based on SECO’s 11 cents per KWH, and using the amount of recharging the owner’s manual says I can get, works out to TWO CENTS PER MILE. For electricity. I doubt that this costs me more than about $5 a month. Meanwhile, after four years in The Villages, not needing the gas engine very often, and with almost 50,000 miles on the car, its gas usage works out to 150 MPG. Not bad.

This road legal "cart" claims 100 watt-hours per mile

Aptera Motors

700W max solar charging.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by HORNET

What about the cost of new batteries every few years?

Great Point!

[MorTech]

The Delta-Q charger that came with the EZGO Elite lithium pulled 853W max from the wall.

I am sure I could get close to 80 watt-hours per mile with 30+ tire pressure

The EZGO RXV Elite lithium has regen braking so the brake energy is put back in the battery which is why the watt-hour rating is so low. The brakes have excellent stopping power (a bit touchy) with no brake pads to wear out.

USA and Canada has NatGas coming out of it's butt...umm...So to speak...So the cost is near zero. The shale fields are the largest in the world with the only exception of West Siberia, Russia. The Artic has unlimited NatGas. The stuff is bubbling out of the summer lakes in Greenand.