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Old 06-18-2023, 06:12 AM
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We own a 2020 Yamaha...how much pollution does it create?
 
Old 06-18-2023, 06:15 AM
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A gas-powered golf cart with a 10.5 horsepower engine that operates for 2.5 hours each week emits 1474.2 pounds of CO2 each year, according to a study by Princeton University.
 
Old 06-18-2023, 07:31 AM
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We own a 2020 Yamaha...how much pollution does it create?
Less than your SUV, a bus, a jet airplane and a Chinese coal fired power plant. And while "1400 pounds" of CO2 may sound like a lot, our atmospheric CO2 levels are relatively low, so just consider that golf cart as producing plant food which ultimately generates O2.
 
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We own a 2020 Yamaha...how much pollution does it create?
Way less than a car and roughly the same as an electric cart when one opens their eyes and considers all the factors, not just what comes out of a tailpipe.
 
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Assuming you were honestly interested in an answer....


Pollution seems to be measured in the amount of CO2 released and the amount of CO2 released is proportional to the amount of gasoline burned.

My cart gets very close to 50mpg while my car gets more like 30mpg. Every mile that I choose to drive my cart rather than my car reduces the amount of CO2 I produce.
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A gas-powered golf cart with a 10.5 horsepower engine that operates for 2.5 hours each week emits 1474.2 pounds of CO2 each year, according to a study by Princeton University.

The average breathing, human being emits over 700 lbs. of CO2 per year.

Without CO2, life wouldn't exist.

CO2 is a not a pollutant.
 
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The question is how much carbon does the production of and use of a gas cart use in comparison to an electric cart. It would not surprise me that the production of the batteries offsets the carbon produced by the gas one.
 
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The question is how much carbon does the production of and use of a gas cart use in comparison to an electric cart. It would not surprise me that the production of the batteries offsets the carbon produced by the gas one.
Electricity is expensive to produce. Battery production is likely much more expensive and environmentally unfriendly than any byproduct from a gas cart. In addition, those tries everyone is equipped with, the amount of energy used to produce those and the lamp black byproducts are super environmentally unfriendly.
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We own a 2020 Yamaha...how much pollution does it create?
Just take a sniff in one of the tunnels when there are a couple of them in there.
 
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Just take a sniff in one of the tunnels when there are a couple of them in there.
which proves just what???? Probably smells better than a flatulent elephant
 
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Without a battery of some kind a gas golf cart could not pollute
 
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Assuming you were honestly interested in an answer....


Pollution seems to be measured in the amount of CO2 released and the amount of CO2 released is proportional to the amount of gasoline burned.

My cart gets very close to 50mpg while my car gets more like 30mpg. Every mile that I choose to drive my cart rather than my car reduces the amount of CO2 I produce.
I really don't believe life is that simple. The only way this could be correct is if the golf cart used a catalytic converter and other pollution mitigation devices like your car has.
 
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I really don't believe life is that simple. The only way this could be correct is if the golf cart used a catalytic converter and other pollution mitigation devices like your car has.
Interesting. It turns out you might be right.

Not only would burning more fuel release more carbon, the use of a catalytic converter would seem to increase the amount of CO2. One of the purposes of the catalytic converter is to convert CO to CO2. CO2 is listed as a greenhouse gas while CO is not; perhaps that is because CO has already been controlled through the use of converters. In any case, while the amount of carbon released by burning a gallon of gas is the same regardless of how it is burned, the use of a catalytic converter appears to increase the amount of CO2 produced.

Do you have data showing something different? Do you have data showing a less efficient engine burning more fuel with an attachment in place to increase the amount of CO2 would still produce less pollution?
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Are all those Yamaha's poking a hole in the ozone? Is that why it's so hot around here?
 
Old 06-18-2023, 02:52 PM
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Interesting. It turns out you might be right.

Not only would burning more fuel release more carbon, the use of a catalytic converter would seem to increase the amount of CO2. One of the purposes of the catalytic converter is to convert CO to CO2. CO2 is listed as a greenhouse gas while CO is not; perhaps that is because CO has already been controlled through the use of converters. In any case, while the amount of carbon released by burning a gallon of gas is the same regardless of how it is burned, the use of a catalytic converter appears to increase the amount of CO2 produced.

Do you have data showing something different? Do you have data showing a less efficient engine burning more fuel with an attachment in place to increase the amount of CO2 would still produce less pollution?
Nope, no data to support it. Just way, way too much time reading car magazines. It just seems to make sense to me, I am not pretending to be an authority

Let me add to my response. I seem to remember reading that mowing your lawn for an hour pollutes as much as driving for like 6 hours or some crazy number like that. Again, not an expert. Our golf carts, setting aside the EFI, are closer to lawn mower tech than car tech.

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