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Recpectfully I think you can argue the source. The Villages Cart store is the country's (yes country's) larget Yamaha GAS seller. At least that is what they claim.

So would they say that electric is cheaper? I think I'll rely more on an independent source.

But to be fair I will go get their research and see how it pans out.
Please, what do you like? Gas or electric? I trust your opinion. Thanks.
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As far as range goes, electric with solar/roof should out perform in many ways.

It will last all day.

The solar option is now less than $1,000, you get 30% tax credits to boot.

It's a lot less noise pollution - zero air pollution (it does use oil too).

Here's one fact I read if there was loss of power hurricane etc. you can backfeed your home for some limited power like the fridge.

Don't you guys think about your carbon foot print!!!!

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How do you start a poll on this subject? It would interesting to see the voting results of which cart is more popular on the forum gas or electric. I guessing 60-40 gas, with Yammy 1st, Club Car 2nd, and EZGO 3rd? Maybe the poll could incorporate brand type as well in the voting.

I have a Yamaha gas cart for a lot of the reasons discussed already. If I was to purchase a second cart for just pool hopping, mail pickup, and local dinning and golf, it would probably be an electric. But, you can't beat the gassers for worry free long distance trips, speed, hill climbing and four people hauling. IMHO
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Many, many thanks for posters' comments about the operating cost of Gas vs. Electric golf cart. That's just what I was looking for!

Do most Gas cart users 'cart' to the gas station to fill up, or do you just take a 5-gal. container in your car and keep that in the garage?
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One of our neighbors was considering a gas cart but her biggest objection was that she didn't want to carry a 5 gallon gas can around in her car and store it in her garage. I told her that I don't store gas in my garage. I just take my cart to the gas station. They are conveniently located with one in Colony Plaza and a couple on 466. I'm sure there is also something in the northern section of TV near Spanish Springs but I don't take the cart up there too often and have never needed gas on the few occasions that I went up there.
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Car Guy, and what about the disposal of the batteries and the pollution caused by the coal fired plant to generate your electricity. Everything from both cause environment problems.

Others, why don't you all just stop by The Villages Golf Cart store and ask them for the cost of operation comparison sheet. Then go challenge all those facts.

This has to be one of the most stupid arguments every to grace these pages. The information is readily available from what you should agree is a reliable source and everyone does not want to accept it. Should be moved to political, makes about the same amount of sense.
Really! Seriously! Stupid arguments, Thats' a little bit Harsh isn't it. And your background is? And your certifications and credentials are?

If you really want to get into it start doing Well to Wheels research on carbon foot print.

I2rideHD. So do I! CVO Road Glide- Just rode 1250 miles lasts week from Syracuse to TV. All on Gas! Gee Wiz No battery. Crossed Country five times on Harleys! Gas no battery.

Now in 3 degree wind chill over the PA MTS that may qualify me as stupid. When it comes to alternative fuels or a vehicle repair 35 years of teaching gets me a little testy from hearing STUPID.

In TV maybe just maybe some people like myself would consider electric! Maybe not? But do not call us Stupid!

Many can debate either side, And if you do some more research you will find that there are just as many Oil fired electric generating plants. Yes Foreign Oil to Fuel you electricity. Batteries like a vehicle are now recycled. There are no arguments just good questions and discussions. Deep breath relax , Remember your retired now!

And sorry there are those that may not accept " A Yamaha Sponsered Villages self interest research!" Or was that Stupid?
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What are "poor charging habits" for the electric carts?
EZGo has on their web site the proper method for "conditioning new batteries"

Electric Carts that were left unattended for long periods ( Months ) would allow the batteries to get sulfated. In simple terms that means scabbed over plates that will not every recharge.

Some people would over charge their batteries. Or quick charge them which shortens battery life.

Allowing batteries to drain below a 50% charge over and over can reduce life

There are some good posts on TOTV in the cart sections that explain this.

This is why some people feel much more comfortable with a Gas Cart.
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Recpectfully I think you can argue the source. The Villages Cart store is the country's (yes country's) larget Yamaha GAS seller. At least that is what they claim.

So would they say that electric is cheaper? I think I'll rely more on an independent source.

But to be fair I will go get their research and see how it pans out.
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I have used 4 gal per month for the past 3 years. No other expenditures but once a year service.
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I have used 4 gal per month for the past 3 years. No other expenditures but once a year service.
Good feedback for people looking

So say at $4 a gallon that is about $768 for four years in fuel. And add in the four yearly OIL services that would equal in price to a Electric cart needing a 4 year estimated battery replacement cost.
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Really! Seriously! Stupid arguments, Thats' a little bit Harsh isn't it. And your background is? And your certifications and credentials are?

If you really want to get into it start doing Well to Wheels research on carbon foot print.

I2rideHD. So do I! CVO Road Glide- Just rode 1250 miles lasts week from Syracuse to TV. All on Gas! Gee Wiz No battery. Crossed Country five times on Harleys! Gas no battery.

Now in 3 degree wind chill over the PA MTS that may qualify me as stupid. When it comes to alternative fuels or a vehicle repair 35 years of teaching gets me a little testy from hearing STUPID.

In TV maybe just maybe some people like myself would consider electric! Maybe not? But do not call us Stupid!

Many can debate either side, And if you do some more research you will find that there are just as many Oil fired electric generating plants. Yes Foreign Oil to Fuel you electricity. Batteries like a vehicle are now recycled. There are no arguments just good questions and discussions. Deep breath relax , Remember your retired now!

And sorry there are those that may not accept " A Yamaha Sponsered Villages self interest research!" Or was that Stupid?
Read the post. I called the argument stupid. And I stand by that. Why? Because it does not matter a twit, if you have a gas cart, that person will argue till death why it is the best. And if you own electric, all gas cart drivers are wrong on every aspect. You can never win the gas vs electric discussion. It has a more dedicated following then the Harley vs wannabee following. (mine is a Road King) As for golf carts I happen to own one of each. A 2008 Yamaha electric and a 2010 Yamaha gas. Both are great carts and each one has pro's and con's. Each one has a place in TV. So once more, the argument is stupid, dumb, inane, waste of time, what ever adjective you want. I like stupid and waste of time best.

And though TVGC sells more gas carts, do they really have a self interest in selling gas vs electric? Why? Is there more profit margin on gas? What is their motive? I don't see one.
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So I get it- Garson! One gas and one Electric Please. Wife said were getting a Smart!

Just trying in to let the original person who asked have the pros and cons of each not taking sides. And the true experts are not getting into this because they are smarter than me and just letting it roll- Each happy with their own choice

So if I get this right. I ride a Harley for my Ego. I spend a fortune malking it run right out of the factory. Then on repairs as every stinking one I have every owned since 97 has left us on the side of the road on our trips. Bikes pass everything but a Dealership!

Then when the Wife and I pull into the Hotel at night beat up and sore , The BMW and Gold Wing guys say you ready to loose the image and give it up man! Our Harley's are home in the garage for show. I ride something that works and does not break or beat me up!

Thanks for the feedback. So once again-

Ignorance can be fixed with education but stupidity takes great salesmanship

Anyone got a deal on a electric cart and a Gold Wing for sale?
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My intent with the original question was to MERELY ask for the operating cost differences between Gas vs. Electric golf cart. Period.

Not which is better (or worse) ... because that is subjective.

I appreciate the info provided here.

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I have to reseach or another might know. Many states offer low off hour rates.

My Driod or iPhone for a Chevrolet Volt or for a Nissan Leaf can communicate with the vehicle and its charger. For example you may get a notice that asks do you want me to charge now at 1.70 a hour or at 2 in the AM at .70 cents

Smart washing machines dryers water heaters and dishwashers have the capability to tell you if you use me now it's x amount but if you wait it's x amount cheaper.

Now I know this is off topic some but I am going to state this. People on this forum know my feelings about Gas Carts. It's plain and simple. And we all agree ti disagree nicely. In fact it's one of the few topics were people do not get nasty.

Gas- Figure $4.00 a Gallon at 35-40 MPG X miles per week!

Electric if you do the math you will be ahead even when it battery replacement time.

Gas- You have oil changes and maintenance. The 10-30% Ethanol in the gas is not friendly to the fuel system. The engine could care less other than the fact you get less British Thermal Units and less MPG

Gas Carts unlike Cars and Trucks- Pollute terrible. Belching PIGS end of discussion. And Noooooooo Fuel injection is not cleaning it up. It helps but only a Catalytic System will do that.

Electric- Is clean transportation. You have new technology Battery designs, more efficient Electric Motors,Smart battery charging tenders that take the guess work out of bad charging habits. = 4 years of Battery life +

There are factor that I believe divideds the troops.

So here we Go.

If your are not a new Paradigm Techie. You wake up having nightmare of" Range Anxiety" You love the smelly clothes and the taste of raw HydroCarbons. You like the sound of knock knock knock chugga chugga bang pop. You have a I want to get in it and drive forever attitude. Wel then hands down Gas Carts are for you.

If you want to feel like you are making a statement . You are not afraid to try something new. You want to make a difference in a community that could use clean air carts. If you can get past TV Burn in Hell if you go electric sales pitch. If you can read directions on how to use your charger.If you enjoy your peace and quite. If you can plan to drive the cart more or less 40 miles a day then Electric is for you.

Decisions- Decisions-

Now comes the Hydro Carbon Police Time out for Herv
So your vote is for gas?
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And though TVGC sells more gas carts, do they really have a self interest in selling gas vs electric? Why? Is there more profit margin on gas? What is their motive? I don't see one.
I think my point about The Villages Cart Store and their data was that I'll bet if you went to Columbia Par Car and got their stats it would be different. Each store specializes. One in gas, one with electric. I think specialization keeps the costs down for the Villages Cart Store. And the fact that they can sell so many gas carts, I'm sure, lowers their per cart price from the manufacturer significantly. With the reputation of the Yamaha electric vs. their gas cart I doubt they would even sell many Yamaha electric. Sticking with one manufacturer and mostly one product must cut their bottom line. No?
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So your vote is for gas?
Only after Taco Bell! Electric it will be. Tomberlin's new AC motor 50 mile+ enhanced ride 2102 PTV cart.

Something about a CarGuy that likes to look in the wheels and see real BRAKES! I gotta have something to play with once the Harley is waxed to death.
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