Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2337296)

I wonder what happens with the EZGO when the driver just "taps" the brake pedal to get a slight slowdown.It seems like that would confuse the engine and would it reverse for just a short time and then go back to forward. Apparently it works, but i don't see why not have regular friction brakes in combination with motor reversal ?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2337296)

I wonder what happens with the EZGO when the driver just "taps" the brake pedal to get a slight slowdown.It seems like that would confuse the engine and would it reverse for just a short time and then go back to forward. Apparently it works, but i don't see why not have regular friction brakes in combination with motor reversal ?

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2336336)

We purchased a new Custom Drive golf cart from Village Discount Golf Car. We bought at their 466 location just east of Morse Blvd. Their main location is in Summerfield.
Happened to stop there and took one for a test drive. We had a 48v batt cart and tired of range issues, lucky to get 25 miles.
The “C4” cart is amazing. 90 mile range with excellent lithium battery. Way too many features for me to list here. It’s truly like a Tesla.
I will not post the price of the new cart, but it is such a bargain.
Our sales rep was David Bailey, a very nice man- no pressure at all. Lots of colors avail and either black or tan seats.
We’ve had ours for a month now and so very impressed. And their service and prep is wonderful.

Highly recommend to check out the Custom Drive carts there. More info customdrive.com. Here’s a pic from their site.

I offer this information solely to assist others that may be in the market for a great Lithium Electric golf cart. Their # 352 633 4440. Or David at 401 345 7620

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2337338)

The original message was the cart uses reverse motor braking...

That does not mean the motor turns in "reverse". The motor is electronically changed into operating as a generator. The cart's forward motion is now used to drive the motor. Since operating in generator mode, the motor consumes the kinetic energy of movement, converting it into electricity. In other words, the motor becomes a mini power generation plant. The generation slows the cart, and recharges the battery at the same time.
Also called braking regen.
This captures kinetic as electricity to be used to get moving. Net overall saving battery use to extend range.

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2337338)

The original message was the cart uses reverse motor braking...

That does not mean the motor turns in "reverse". The motor is electronically changed into operating as a generator. The cart's forward motion is now used to drive the motor. Since operating in generator mode, the motor consumes the kinetic energy of movement, converting it into electricity. In other words, the motor becomes a mini power generation plant. The generation slows the cart, and recharges the battery at the same time.
Also called braking regen.
This captures kinetic as electricity to be used to get moving. Net overall saving battery use to extend range.

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2337364)

Just as soon as you take your foot off the accelerator the motor braking starts...Pressing the brake pedal just increases motor braking. The only time you really need to use the brake is coming to a complete stop. One-pedal driving is 95%. You have to experience the EZGO RXV Elite...The "brakes" are excellent and very touchy. I would buy one but they cost far more than I am willing to pay. I borrow my neighbor's. I have about $8000 into my cart and that includes the lithium pack I built.

Actually, I think I would buy an Atlas 210ah cart instead of the EZGO...If my name was Rothschild. :)

Originally Posted by DaddyD (Post 2337355)

This thread is a perfect example of why "The Villages" / "Villagers" have the negative reputation it / they do amongst the general public.

Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2337415)

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2337420)

How was the ride???

Have not been on an electric that rides as nice as the newer Yamaha's.

Thanks for the info.

Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2337432)

For me, the ride was similar to my 2020 Yamaha quiet tech 2 EFI, two seats. .

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2337433)

:clap2:

Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2337415)

I took a test drive today. The C2 is 2 seat, C4 is 4 seats. The acceleration was very quick, the top indicated speed I got was 21 mph. The auto braking was more aggressive than I liked but the salesman said they can adjust that. The included backup camera is useful. Seat Belts are included. A fob is better then a mechanical key imo.

The “sale" price was ~$14,000 + tax for the C2 but many things go on sale & maybe off then back on sale all the time so people feel pressure to buy. Accessories like fender lighting (a must have safety item in my opinion), side rain protection, ect are extra. We would consider it if we did not already have a golf cart but also feel new golf carts are overpriced.

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2336692)

With all due respect… Almost all of your posts concerning EV's are negative. It doesn't involve much of a forum search to realize that 99%+ of the people who own EV's post positive comments about them.
As I said before EV's are not lead acid battery powered. They are lithium powered.
I watch this forum daily so I also see whats posted. I challenge you to find me five posts in the thousands of posts, where is somebody who actually owns a lithium ion battery powered golf cart posted something negative about it.......

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336798)

Nice try, however, here is what I ACTUALLY posted.

1) to answer the first part: Look at the number of posts BY EV OWNERS stating they get 25,35 and 50 miles/charge. Sorry, I want more. And if you look back 3 whole posts, you find this from an EV owner:

"I keep hearing this 80-90 mile range for Lithium Golf Carts ... nonsense.
I have a Star EV, 210 Amp.
I had a Star EV 120 Amp as a loaner for a week.
Your battery gauge is non-linear folks. Just because you get 35 miles and your gauge says 50%, don't count on it.
The 120 Amp I had, showed 1/2 charge at 18 miles. It really had about 3 miles left or 1 mile less than I needed.
Carts in The Villages Villages are driven "pedal to the metal", almost all the time. If you don't believe that, go drive around in your cart at 17 mph and see if anyone stays behind you for more than 2 minutes.
As others have said, the general degradation of Lithium depends on a lot of factors and they don't seem enough have been in use, long enough to actually quantify what's really going to happen.
In the meantime, I wouldn't gamble on that 80-90 mile range. If I get 45-50 out my 210 AMP, I figure I'm doing ok."

2) I DID NOT call all EV owners "delusional", I posted anyone who thinks the get 90 miles/charge, no battery degradation and a lifetime of over 10 years is delusional.

3) I DID NOT call all EV owners gullible and brainwashed---only anybody who thinks that changing from ICE to EV has anything to do with so-called "global warming" and think they are saving the planet.

4) I'm still trying to figure out what your obsession with post count is all about

Next time please try to get it right.

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2336860)

Please, simply give it a break. Your initial (many) posts, including the harsh "delusional" comment were combative. Now, the attempt to justify indicates the weakness of your argument.

The post count matter appears true for many posters on TOTV. The one-liner responses, and the continual obsessive follow-up.

And NOW the topic of "global warming".... I mentioned before that we are NOT 'Greenies' , actually the OPPOSITE. We simply like new tech, the quiet, the smoothness, the no-smell. period. So DO NOT plug us into a certain group that you may dislike.

My focus on opening this Thread was simply to offer information to Villagers who may be interested in a new Lithium golf cart. We are so very impressed with ours. But did not think that some here, esp 'GE' would strike out with obsessive negative posts (IMO).

Please let it go....

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2337052)

...and again the name-calling. Just another indication of pompous rudeness.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2337075)

Amazing how easy it is to get the electric cart owners all riled up. The logical conclusion is that are insecure about their choice. Or as Shakespear put it "Methinks the lady doth protest too much". Anyway, my work here is done, maybe I'll move on to "cat people"

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2337099)

#6) In the future there will be charges everywhere just like gas stations are now. And BATTERY TECHNOLOGY will NOT stand still (science never stops). Batteries in the future will be lighter, smaller, and hold MORE charge.

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2337101)

Actually for our new Custom Drive cart, chargers ARE everywhere. It has a great on-board charging system with an AC 110v cable which we keep in the front trunk (Frunk). So in the event I ever run out of juice (totally unlikely). I’d look for an outlet.

Originally Posted by DaddyD (Post 2337355)

This thread is a perfect example of why "The Villages" / "Villagers" have the negative reputation it / they do amongst the general public.

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2337338)

The original message was the cart uses reverse motor braking...

That does not mean the motor turns in "reverse". The motor is electronically changed into operating as a generator. The cart's forward motion is now used to drive the motor. Since operating in generator mode, the motor consumes the kinetic energy of movement, converting it into electricity. In other words, the motor becomes a mini power generation plant. The generation slows the cart, and recharges the battery at the same time.
Also called braking regen.
This captures kinetic as electricity to be used to get moving. Net overall saving battery use to extend range.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2337481)

Of course they're going to put up positive posts about their purchase...

To do otherwise would be admitting the made a mistake... And we all know THAT'S not gonna happen...

Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2337415)

I took a test drive today. The C2 is 2 seat, C4 is 4 seats. The acceleration was very quick, the top indicated speed I got was 21 mph. The auto braking was more aggressive than I liked but the salesman said they can adjust that. The included backup camera is useful. Seat Belts are included. A fob is better then a mechanical key imo.

The “sale" price was ~$14,000 + tax for the C2 but many things go on sale & maybe off then back on sale all the time so people feel pressure to buy. Accessories like fender lighting (a must have safety item in my opinion), side rain protection, ect are extra. We would consider it if we did not already have a golf cart but also feel new golf carts are overpriced.

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2337437)

I’m the OP. ... No idea why you stated it wasn’t ...

Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2337585)

... No idea why you stated … That sounds hostile. I’m on your side. I stated my impression & what the dealer told me. I said “side rain protection” meaning an enclosure. Suggestions, keep your rebuttals short & to your point. Don’t shoot your allies, otherwise you won’t have any.

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2337503)

...And the energy that cannot be put back into the battery (under hard braking or battery at 100% SOC) is flared-off via a large ceramic resister under the passenger side seat in the EZGO. It is a better idea than flaring heat using a brake pad :)

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2336860)

Please, simply give it a break. Your initial (many) posts, including the harsh "delusional" comment were combative. Now, the attempt to justify indicates the weakness of your argument.

The post count matter appears true for many posters on TOTV. The one-liner responses, and the continual obsessive follow-up.

And NOW the topic of "global warming".... I mentioned before that we are NOT 'Greenies' , actually the OPPOSITE. We simply like new tech, the quiet, the smoothness, the no-smell. period. So DO NOT plug us into a certain group that you may dislike.

My focus on opening this Thread was simply to offer information to Villagers who may be interested in a new Lithium golf cart. We are so very impressed with ours. But did not think that some here, esp 'GE' would strike out with obsessive negative posts (IMO).

Please let it go....

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2337564)

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"Of course"???? Talk about a generalization of people/posters you don't know or can get inside their heads. "We all know"....
Now we have behindthekeyboard psychologists here on TOTV. If you look at our posts re the purchase and experience of our Custom Drive EV cart, please notice not all our input was rosy....