[Taltarzac725]

Keeshond Information | American Kennel Club

This afternoon I took Beau into the big field at Doggie Doo Run Run and there was a man and a dog I did not know. The dog looked like a keeshond and as soon as I got close to it after greeting the man who was quite unsocial, the dog started growling at me. He said that the dog did not like strange men with baseball caps. I asked the man if the dog was bad with small dogs and as soon as my pooch got close this keeshond like dog ran my dog down. My dog was pushed around pretty good and was scared for his life as I was. The man acted like this was old hat. He did ask if my dog was harmed.

FYI Beau is a ten lb. chihuahua/terrier who likes to chase the big dogs when they allow him to do this. He is an alpha dog but usually is quite sweet. Chihuahua and chihuahua mixes do stick up for themselves in my experiences.

I picked Beau up and took him out of the big field to the big dog area which was empty. He had wet spots on his neck and the side of his chest but was OK except for being scared.

The man put his dog on a leash in the meantime and exited the park after waiting for me to tell him if Beau was harmed. He was OK just a little scared. I took him back to the big field as soon as the guy with the keeshond like dog was out of the big dog area.

Beau enjoyed the empty big field but I looked at the sign in sheet for the man so that I could report the incident to the dog park owners but there was no name listed in the big dog section.

I will keep an eye out for the dog and hope that men wearing baseball caps at the Doggie Doo Run Run will also watch out for this dog. If he and his owner comes back that is.

I am not saying it was a keeshond just looks like this breed. I did not get the name of the man nor of the dog.

[Jaggy]

Come back over to the 30b or less side of the park.. we miss you and Beau..

[CFrance]

I wonder if the guy either didn't know there's a fee for using the park or intentionally ignored that fact? The owners of the park should be notified so they can keep an eye out for this man and his aggressive dog and keep him out of the park.

I hope little Beau is not too traumatized, Tal. He can come and chase Crosby... if he can entice Croz out of the pool. :-)

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I wonder if the guy either didn't know there's a fee for using the park or intentionally ignored that fact? The owners of the park should be notified so they can keep an eye out for this man and his aggressive dog and keep him out of the park.

I hope little Beau is not too traumatized, Tal. He can come and chase Crosby... if he can entice Croz out of the pool. :-)

I rarely have had any problems at Doggie Doo Run Run and have been going there with different dogs though since January 2007. My former pooch Sport was attacked by a Weimaraner named Jesse James the summer of 2007 and had to get three staples in his butt. No problems of any significant kind since then. Jesse James stopped coming after those initial visits because he saw small dogs as rabbit like game.

Maybe I missed where he signed it but did not see anything in the big dog section that might have been him unless he had been there a real long time.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Jaggy

Come back over to the 30b or less side of the park.. we miss you and Beau..

Dealing with some family problems right now so I have to modify when I can come. He does get to the small dog section in addition to the small dog side. We miss the regular small dog crowd too. He misses all those ready laps.

[Barefoot]

We are usually at DDRR every day. I will watch for a man with a Keeshond-type dog.
As you know, the owners don't tolerate aggressive dogs.
Too bad the owner didn't use the sign-in sheet. It makes it difficult to report him.
I'm glad that Beau is OK.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

We are usually at DDRR every day. I will watch for a man with a Keeshond-type dog.
As you know, the owners don't tolerate aggressive dogs.
Too bad the owner didn't use the sign-in sheet. It makes it difficult to report him.
I'm glad that Beau is OK.

Thanks. I will have to avoid going into any side of the park with this Keeshond like pooch. You would expect that any dog that growls at men wearing baseball caps would have quite some problems here in the Villages as that seems to be a very common thing to have on their heads.

[George Bieniaszek]

So sorry for your experience and especially for your little fur baby. I would suggest that you or others going there bring your cell phone or camera with you next time and if there is any aggressive behavior you can get a couple of pictures of the dog or dog owner and submit them to the DDRR park owners in case they "forgot" to sign in..

[Bobcuse]

Scott would fix this problem quickly if he knew about it. I was one of the charter members of DDRR back in 2003 when Scott petitioned the county for a permit to operate his park. We all drove to the County Commissioners meeting in Bushnell to support him, and this was back when the commissioners were mostly non-Villagers who loved spending our tax monies outside of TV. I recall when we had an occasional aggressive dog Scott would resolve the problem quickly by having that dog come at a time when nobody else frequented the park, and asked them to leave if anyone else came at that time. The owners of aggressive dogs seem to think it's ok as long as he tells you they are aggressive! It's not ok, and he should immediately leave.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Bobcuse

Scott would fix this problem quickly if he knew about it. I was one of the charter members of DDRR back in 2003 when Scott petitioned the county for a permit to operate his park. We all drove to the County Commissioners meeting in Bushnell to support him, and this was back when the commissioners were mostly non-Villagers who loved spending our tax monies outside of TV. I recall when we had an occasional aggressive dog Scott would resolve the problem quickly by having that dog come at a time when nobody else frequented the park, and asked them to leave if anyone else came at that time. The owners of aggressive dogs seem to think it's ok as long as he tells you they are aggressive! It's not ok, and he should immediately leave.

I would like to get the name of the owner and the dog before I make an "official" report. Scott is very good with working with aggressive dogs and showing fairness in a case-by-case basis. Some people might label my pooch Beau as aggressive as he likes to make the bigger and smaller dogs run with him. I leave whenever I meet people I know have problems with Beau. He did nothing but approach this keeshond like pooch. My problem was that this man seemed very hostile to me and the dog picked up on it. I had never seen him before. The hostility was just a vibe though and when a dog starts growling when someone just walks to it, there is a problem. I did not make any stupid moves near an unfamiliar dog to set it off.

[Irishlass]

I had a little Yorkie who thought he was superman. Barked at big dogs all the time. While walking Willie, we met our neighbor who had a Golden Retriever. Both dogs were leashed and I asked if we should say hello. Well the Golden Retriever took Willie by the neck and chocked him. Rushed to the vet hysterical, Willie was not moving. He had to be put down. My heart was and is still, broken. Just a caveat, don't let the little "Willies of the world" near big dogs. What should I have done. The neighbor paid the $400 vet bill and asked me for half. I declined.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by Irishlass

I had a little Yorkie who thought he was superman. Barked at big dogs all the time. While walking Willie, we met our neighbor who had a Golden Retriever. Both dogs were leashed and I asked if we should say hello. Well the Golden Retriever took Willie by the neck and chocked him. Rushed to the vet hysterical, Willie was not moving. He had to be put down. My heart was and is still, broken. Just a caveat, don't let the little "Willies of the world" near big dogs. What should I have done. The neighbor paid the $400 vet bill and asked me for half. I declined.

That's a very sad story and my heart goes out to you. Owners of any type of terrier should always remember that most of the terrier breeds are fearless and regardless of size, can be aggressive or at the least, spirited, and that behavior can be mistaken by another dog.

On the other hand, Goldens are kind of laid back for the most part, although usually females more so than males.

In a case such as yours with a tiny dog, I probably would have picked him up.

[taurus]

There is a reason why small dogs are suppose to go on one side and large breeds on the other, as some dogs view a little 10 pound furry thing running around as prey and it triggers their hunting instincts. Now while I admit the dog should not have growled, I believe you need to take some responsibility for this issue and just keep your dog on the other side where he will be safe.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Irishlass

I had a little Yorkie who thought he was superman. Barked at big dogs all the time. While walking Willie, we met our neighbor who had a Golden Retriever. Both dogs were leashed and I asked if we should say hello. Well the Golden Retriever took Willie by the neck and chocked him. Rushed to the vet hysterical, Willie was not moving. He had to be put down. My heart was and is still, broken. Just a caveat, don't let the little "Willies of the world" near big dogs. What should I have done. The neighbor paid the $400 vet bill and asked me for half. I declined.

That's a terrible story. Sorry you had to go through this.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by taurus

There is a reason why small dogs are suppose to go on one side and large breeds on the other, as some dogs view a little 10 pound furry thing running around as prey and it triggers their hunting instincts. Now while I admit the dog should not have growled, I believe you need to take some responsibility for this issue and just keep your dog on the other side where he will be safe.

Dogs who take smaller dogs as prey should not be at a public nor at a private dog park. Sport had an experience like that in the Summer of 2007 where a Weimaraner named Jesse James ran him down mistaking him for a rabbit at the big dog section of Doggie Doo Run Run. They banned Jesse James as an aggressive dog and that IMHO was the right decision. You cannot have dogs viewing other dogs as their game at a private dog park nor at a public one.