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What are the leash laws in Sumter County?
County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.
Yes, I suspected the county would only require a dog to be "under control", not on a leash.

But I thought The Villages requires dogs to be on a leash when they are off their owners property, and others seem to confirm this. Is this not the law in The Villages?

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We have 2 Golden Retrievers that are neither on a leash or under control close to where we live in Charlotte. They have run at our dogs on leash and in our golf cart. Wish their owner would get control or pay more attention before letting them out the front doors of her villa.
Why do you think no one has reported the owner to the authorities in The Villages?
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My deed restrictions SPECIFICALLy state "a leash" when not in the house:
"Use of Property
2.16 Only one dog may be kept by any Owner, provided, however, that at all times said animal, when not within the confines of the Home, shall be restrained by a leash."
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I didn't read it that way. I think they simply left out a "comma". I believe "direct control" refers to voice control.
County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times, or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.
I agree. Although few people have total voice control over their dog.
They may think they do, until the dog sees a squirrel!


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My deed restrictions SPECIFICALLy state "a leash" when not in the house:
"Use of Property
2.16 Only one dog may be kept by any Owner, provided, however, that at all times said animal, when not within the confines of the Home, shall be restrained by a leash."
Our Village allows two dogs and the deed restriction is worded differently.
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I wish all people who take their dogs to Lake Okahumpka Park would follow the law and keep their dogs on leash. I guess they think nobody will see them there. And I wish they would clean up their poo. Hard to see your dog pooing when it is way out ahead of you and out of site. Doesn't do any good to say anything.
You owe an apology to the majority who do just that.

It is not acceptable to throw them into your generalization of the very low percent that do not abide by the rules!!!!
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I didn't read it that way. I think they simply left out a "comma". I believe "direct control" refers to voice control.

County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times, or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.
I agree with your interpretation of direct control. I was having some fun with how using the 'or' can be misleading if the writer is not careful.

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Our Village allows two dogs and the deed restriction is worded differently.
That's why it is ever so important for the OP to read deed restrictions for the area[s] where they are considering a purchase.
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billiethkid,

I hope you are just joking around. I didn't really think I said anything that needed to be apologized for. I'm sorry if you read and take it differently than what I meant. I guess I could have worded it different. I just wish that ALL the people followed the law who go there.....the ones that already do follow the law and the ones who are not. I know that many, many do. I just wish ALL did. Sorry if my Englsih and way of putting words together are not what you think they should be. I don't mean that in a mean way. So please don't take it as such.
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You owe an apology to the majority who do just that.

It is not acceptable to throw them into your generalization of the very low percent that do not abide by the rules!!!!
This was said that you didn't like: "I wish all people who take their dogs to Lake Okahumpka Park would follow the law and keep their dogs on leash."

She clearly is referring to people who don't keep their dogs on a leash. Now you need to apologize for assuming the worst in people.
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Bottom line .. Leashed off your property..
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That's why it is ever so important for the OP to read deed restrictions for the area[s] where they are considering a purchase.
That is a very good point. However, we will be considering a lot of areas and we don't have the energy to read all of their deed restrictions in advance.

Therefore, we plan to tell the realtors we will only consider houses in areas where the deed restrictions specify that dogs must be on a leash when they are not on the owners property. Then, when we find a house we want to purchase, we will read the deed restrictions very carefully.

Right now, the only neighborhoods we plan to avoid are the ones where the roads empty into Morse Road north of 466. In the thread about the accident that occurred where San Marino intersects Morse, we read several posts written by residents who hate to ride along that part of Morse Road because there are no designated cart paths. That was enough to discourage us from living there.
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This was said that you didn't like: "I wish all people who take their dogs to Lake Okahumpka Park would follow the law and keep their dogs on leash."

She clearly is referring to people who don't keep their dogs on a leash. Now you need to apologize for assuming the worst in people.
Actually, not that clear, in my opinion. If Geo had said "I wish all the people who take their dogs to Lake Okahumpka Park and don't follow the law would follow the law," it would have clearly indicated that not all who take their dogs there don't follow the law.

Just like in the leash law referenced above, clarity is everything.
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That is a very good point. However, we will be considering a lot of areas and we don't have the energy to read all of their deed restrictions in advance.

Therefore, we plan to tell the realtors we will only consider houses in areas where the deed restrictions specify that dogs must be on a leash when they are not on the owners property. Then, when we find a house we want to purchase, we will read the deed restrictions very carefully.

Right now, the only neighborhoods we plan to avoid are the ones where the roads empty into Morse Road north of 466. In the thread about the accident that occurred where San Marino intersects Morse, we read several posts written by residents who hate to ride along that part of Morse Road because there are no designated cart paths. That was enough to discourage us from living there.
Oh, my, my! I learned long ago not to trust ANY salesman - regardless of who they work for and/or represent. There are no guarantees of what they tell you and no recourse to be had if something wasn't quite true! And as a side thought - just because deed restrictions might require that pets be on a leash when outside of the home or off of the property - don't count on that to be a reality. And even if on a leash and out for their daily constitutional - that leash usually does little to prevent the pet from enjoying your front lawn!

And as far as taking the golf cart out on Morse Blvd. - are you really going to rely about a comfort level based on someone else's opinion rather than your personal experience? Morse does have a golf cart diamond lane for carts that shares the road with cars. Several posts on TOTV really are miniscual compared to the number of cart operators who have found their comfort level riding next to cars on that road.

Don't deny yourselves the oppty to live in the house you might really enjoy because of 'several posts' on TOTV. Consider the thought - but - consider your personal experience[s] first.
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Oh, my, my! I learned long ago not to trust ANY salesman - regardless of who they work for and/or represent. There are no guarantees of what they tell you and no recourse to be had if something wasn't quite true! And as a side thought - just because deed restrictions might require that pets be on a leash when outside of the home or off of the property - don't count on that to be a reality. And even if on a leash and out for their daily constitutional - that leash usually does little to prevent the pet from enjoying your front lawn!

And as far as taking the golf cart out on Morse Blvd. - are you really going to rely about a comfort level based on someone else's opinion rather than your personal experience? Morse does have a golf cart diamond lane for carts that shares the road with cars. Several posts on TOTV really are miniscual compared to the number of cart operators who have found their comfort level riding next to cars on that road.

Don't deny yourselves the oppty to live in the house you might really enjoy because of 'several posts' on TOTV. Consider the thought - but - consider your personal experience[s] first.




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And if you buy a place you find you don't like or want to move later to a different view, part of town, or size of home, they sell quickly...IF they are clean, well staged, priced correctly. ALSO moving furniture and belongings is MUCH cheaper here than cross country.
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