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Old 08-06-2013, 05:17 PM
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On the other hand, I don't see why you have to go over and tell your neighbor what he's doing is wrong, starting bad feelings. He knows the rules, signed off on them at closing, and apparently just doesn't care. Doesn't seem like the kind of person that would take kindly to a nice neighborly chat with you, telling him what he's about to do is wrong. I don't see a good outcome to that chat.

If you then lodge a complaint with the district, he will know exactly who complained, and this could set you up for a long, frosty relationship with your neighbor.

The deal is, you're supposed to be able to lodge a complaint with the district, and I don't think they're going to tell who complained. If it's that important to you, for whatever reason, that you don't want his fence there, call the district. That's the way it's set up to happen.

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Old 08-06-2013, 05:34 PM
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back to the wisdom of gracie..there is no violation yet, and a chance to do this upfront by saying what gracie suggests..tell the neighbor you heard that's not allowed and not waiting til a fence goes up and reporting anonymously.
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back to the wisdom of gracie..there is no violation yet, and a chance to do this upfront by saying what gracie suggests..tell the neighbor you heard that's not allowed and not waiting til a fence goes up and reporting anonymously.
I understand the reasoning about this, kitty, but what, then, if this person doesn't give a damn? Now you're between a rock and a hard place. I wish we were all as reasonable as we think everyone should be. But maybe it will work. Who knows?

As another poster said, maybe it just won't be that big a deal if he puts up a little fence to contain his dog(s).
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back to the wisdom of gracie..there is no violation yet, and a chance to do this upfront by saying what gracie suggests..tell the neighbor you heard that's not allowed and not waiting til a fence goes up and reporting anonymously.
I would hope that if I was doing something outside of the deed restrictions, my neighbor would politely suggest I check since I might be in violation. Of course there will be neighbors who don't think the deed restrictions apply to them so a gentle message may not work and follow-up with the appropriate department may be needed.
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I would hope that if I was doing something outside of the deed restrictions, my neighbor would politely suggest I check since I might be in violation. Of course there will be neighbors who don't think the deed restrictions apply to them so a gentle message may not work and follow-up with the appropriate department may be needed.
True true. I am really "on the fence," so to speak, about the solution to this problem. It has so much to do with what kind of person the neighbor is. Maybe the OP knows the neighbor's personality and could judge what to do from that knowledge.

If he is a jerk, I would probably go the anonymous route.
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I am new to TV and one of my neighbors is planning on building a fenced area for his three dogs that is next to my small yard. Is this allowed and, if not, with whom should I speak? Thanks for any assistance with this potential situation. Mango 47
Is this a neighborhood rumor, or did your neighbor tell you personally that he is planning to build a fence? Rumors have a way of growing warts as they're passed from person to person. Perhaps he is planning to have a hedge of some sort?

If he told you he is planning to build a fence, did you express surprise and say "Oh, I thought they weren't allowed"?

There is an invisible fencing company called "Dogwatch" in Ocala. They give free estimates. I'm sure they would drop a brochure off to your house if you call them, and you could ask your neighbor if he's considered that option.
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Is this a neighborhood rumor, or did your neighbor tell you personally that he is planning to build a fence? Rumors have a way of growing warts as they're passed from person to person. Perhaps he is planning to have a hedge of some sort?

If he told you he is planning to build a fence, did you express surprise and say "Oh, I thought they weren't allowed"?

There is an invisible fencing company called "Dogwatch" in Ocala. They give free estimates. I'm sure they would drop a brochure off to your house if you call them, and you could ask your neighbor if he's considered that option.
Your right, Bare, there's a lot of warts growing in TV, lol... I was thinking that maybe he meant an Invisible Fence, just a thought.
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I am new to TV and one of my neighbors is planning on building a fenced area for his three dogs that is next to my small yard. Is this allowed and, if not, with whom should I speak? Thanks for any assistance with this potential situation. Mango 47
Not sure you are really asking how to deal with this, since you simply asked whom you should consult, but.....if you do appreciate the suggestions, it would help if we knew a bit more about the situation, for instance...are you friendly with the neighbors and did they tell you about the fence? Did you simply hear it from a third party? Have you seen signs of construction?

Would other neighbors, or community watch, see the fence? If not, it may be painfully apparent you were the anonymous caller (if you go that route), so probably better, all the way around, to go face to face with your concerns. I do agree with a previous post, it shouldn't be your job to police your neighbors. They know they are breaking the rules. Why should you be put in an awkward position? On the other hand....better to save them the expense and trouble, if you plan to report them, anyway. BTW, if they acquired 3 dogs AFTER moving here, they are already breaking the rules. No way for us to know that, just an FYI, for your own info.

It was also suggested that maybe you could just live with it, but it's apparent since you posted here, that's not your choice. Have the other posters here considered the fact that neighbors are planning to have 3 dogs in the yard near the OP? What if the dogs bark, scratch up the yard, smell up the yard.....ew!! Are they big dogs that are threatening? Lots of factors, but in truth, none of that matters. IT IS AGAINST THE RULES!!

Maybe the neighbors frequent Talk Of The Villages, and have already seen this thread. Problem solved!!
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I'm going through this situation now. I've had shrubbery planted to give my dog a perimeter, if you will, to stay in our yard. When we're outside on our leash she still tends to roam over the property line. I was discussing with my landscaper about gate options. Come to find out my neighbor was eves dropping and heard the conversation and came over and told him that gates were not allowed. I wasn't home at the time so when I got home I went over to ask my neighbor what was up. It was then that she told me that gates were not allowed because she applied for approval on one and was denied. And then proceeded to tell me that if she couldn't put up a gate then why should I be. Personally I'm offended that she was eves dropping on our conversation and that she called the committee on something that we were just discussing! It is my property and it's my consequences if I do something not allowed! This of course is my personal feelings on the matter.
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you really feel you are within your rights to do something that you already know is not allowed?

This is probably why "they" say that most villagers move 3 times - probably half the moves are because of neighbor issues!

When you buy here, you are agreeing to the deed restrictions - why do you feel they can be ignored?
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I understand no fences. Is a homeowner allowed to have 2 dogs? I see a comment above about the limit on number of dogs.
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You are most certainly allowed to have two dogs. Two pets is the limit, and both can be dogs. You are allowed to move to TV with more than two pets, but as they pass on, you cannot replace them. This has been discussed many times on the forum.
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I'm going through this situation now. I've had shrubbery planted to give my dog a perimeter, if you will, to stay in our yard. When we're outside on our leash she still tends to roam over the property line. I was discussing with my landscaper about gate options. Come to find out my neighbor was eves dropping and heard the conversation and came over and told him that gates were not allowed. I wasn't home at the time so when I got home I went over to ask my neighbor what was up. It was then that she told me that gates were not allowed because she applied for approval on one and was denied. And then proceeded to tell me that if she couldn't put up a gate then why should I be. Personally I'm offended that she was eves dropping on our conversation and that she called the committee on something that we were just discussing! It is my property and it's my consequences if I do something not allowed! This of course is my personal feelings on the matter.
That's pretty sad for a neighbor to do. At the very least go directly to you first and not just jump straight out to authorities on something that hasn't even happened.
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dreamer61 - i missed the part in your post that explained that your neighbor 'called the committee'. i did get that she already applied and was denied for the same intent as yours. as far as evesdropping - it's sorta hard to avoid, doncha think?, unless we hold our conversations indoors? and as far as consequences - your actions create consequences for all - some will be pleasant i am sure - breaking the covenants/restrictions would not be.
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I'm going through this situation now. I've had shrubbery planted to give my dog a perimeter, if you will, to stay in our yard. .... I'm offended that she was eves dropping on our conversation and that she called the committee on something that we were just discussing! It is my property and it's my consequences if I do something not allowed!
I think it is shabby of your neighbor to call the authorities about a conversation she overheard, before talking to you first about your plans. Of course if you do something now that is against the covenants, you can be sure she'll have the Backyard Police at your house.

We have invisible fencing which works very well to identify our boundaries to our dogs. I thought it was inhumane before we explored the option with Dogwatch. However I learned that with proper training, they will react to the signal from the fence, and never get a correction (which is a tingle .. I tried it on my arm).
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