[guitarguy]

Kilimanjaro # 5 was rebuilt. Tif -eagle. Compare to the other 26 holes on Havana. Grass does make a difference. But Havana as an entirety is the worst condition Championship course.

[Papa_lecki]

I recall the EXACT conversation last year. Here is the closed thread, started 2/6/22 - almost a year

Havana

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

I recall the EXACT conversation last year. Here is the closed thread, started 2/6/22 - almost a year

Havana

I just read most of that thread. Interesting how it always seems to be Havana having problems.

[Gullwing]

Played Kenya to Hemingway yesterday (1/30). It’s not in great shape but it wasn’t that bad. I’ve definitely played courses in worst shape in central Florida. There were some invasive grass on the greens. Tee boxes had grass. Fairways were ok.

[waynet]

J. Mintzer is absolutely correct . It has nothing to do with dormant grass, it has to do with the total ignorance of caring for a golf course. Where is the accountability? People should be getting fired. As for the course being just OK, I want more for my $55.00 greens fee plus using my own cart. We as a group have tried to avoid Havana one of the guys does not include iy on our list of courses.

[grayesun]

No reason Villages courses have to be this bad in "winter", we played Falcons Fire & Eagle Creek in Orlando last week, both in excellent "green" condition and less costly than Villages (Falcons much less). Guess the grass in Orlando don't sleep. Avoid Villages courses in winter, far too pricey for what you get.

[Bay Kid]

Weather shouldn't be the excuse. Some courses are in very good shape, others not so good. All the same weather.

[HORNET]

Have been here since 2007, played every course in The Villages ( Champion or Executive) , and they as a hole as good or better that anything around outside The Villages

[Causey]

Played 18 holes at Baseline Golf Course this past Sunday 2/5/23. $51 including a cart, beautifully manicured course. Nicer than anything I have seen in the Villages (very sorry to say).

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by will1546

Played Kenya 1/25/23, course is in sorry shape. Teeboxes, fairways and greens have little or no grass. It seems like it needs to be rebuilt, again.

Agree, you would think that the teaching golf pros would advertise lessons from hitting off of HARD PAN in the winter and in the summer give lessons from hitting from the deep rough.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

No, it's Winter. The grass is dormant. It'll start growing again in a few weeks...

Not so long ago, the villages planted this grass know as winter grass. It was real grass, grew in the wintertime and was a pleasure to play on. Agree that it has it's shortcomings particularly in the spring. Would hope TV expedites the re sodding process. Riley at Palmer was done summer 2022 and it was good after the 1st freeze. Glenview is great too.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

If all the courses are in bad shape, then it is the time of year.

So, how the other courses?

Here’s an interesting article on overseeing
A guide to overseeding: What, where and why
Keep in mind, if they do overseed, it costs money, which means greens fees will increase.

This is the best solution:
“In searching for a long-term solution, the USGA is helping to fund research at five different universities - California-Riverside, Texas A&M, Florida, Georgia and Kansas State - to create a warm-season grass that stays green year-round and still handles cooler temperatures. “It would be so great to have a grass stay green and grow year round," Whitlark said.“

Those grasses have been developed. Riley has new grass. Played it after 1st freeze and it was great. Lets hope that TV speeds up the transition to this better grass.

[karostay]

Such experts amazing

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Causey

Played 18 holes at Baseline Golf Course this past Sunday 2/5/23. $51 including a cart, beautifully manicured course. Nicer than anything I have seen in the Villages (very sorry to say).

Not a real course.

[Jmontgom09@aol.com]

Originally Posted by dhsmith

Don’t think winter has anything to do with weeds all over the greens go look at Glenview and see how good it is.How can one course be so good and another so so bad I don’t get it.

I hear the villages own employees maintain Lopez and Glenview. They contract put the other courses. Word is,they cut back on money paid to them, thus less maintenance.
You can see the results. Terrible.