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Dusty_Star 02-27-2024 01:43 PM
Of course we will travel to Mars, & beyond.

Velvet 02-27-2024 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2305701)
Of course we will travel to Mars, & beyond.
Speak for yourself, I’m pretty happy here in Florida myself.

Stu from NYC 02-27-2024 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2305605)
I agree that humans are curious. But, why is it that the American taxpayers always get stuck paying most of the costs for exploration? Aren't humans in other countries curious enough help fund the exploration?
If our govt was smart they would take control of the new technologies that come about thru space exploration and license it to companies that want to make use of it.

Byte1 02-27-2024 02:39 PM
Kind of stupid to put folks up there before installing habitats to be self-sustaining. First thing that should be done is send up equipment and supplies to terraform the planet to make it habitable. It's going to need oxygen producing vegetation and in order to sustain vegetation, it must have a source of water. Even if they start now, it won't happen in my lifetime, so it really doesn't matter to me. That's a lot of money that will be potentially thrown away, that could be better used here. Of course, if Elon Musk wishes to throw his money into the wind, it's his to do with as he wishes.
But, as for sending folks up there on a sight seeing trip, it seems to be costly and very, very dangerous.

Stu from NYC 02-27-2024 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2305722)
Kind of stupid to put folks up there before installing habitats to will be self-sustaining. First thing that should be done is send up equipment and supplies to terraform the planet to make it habitable. It's going to need oxygen producing vegetation and in order to sustain vegetation, it must have a source of water. Even if they start now, it won't happen in my lifetime, so it really doesn't matter to me. That's a lot of money that will be potentially thrown away, that could be better used here. Of course, if Elon Musk wishes to throw his money into the wind, it's his to do with as he wishes.
But, as for sending folks up there on a sight seeing trip, it seems to be costly and very, very dangerous.
Back when we were much younger much more dangerous to sail from Europe to America.

fdpaq0580 02-27-2024 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2305722)
Kind of stupid to put folks up there before installing habitats to will be self-sustaining. First thing that should be done is send up equipment and supplies to terraform the planet to make it habitable. It's going to need oxygen producing vegetation and in order to sustain vegetation, it must have a source of water. Even if they start now, it won't happen in my lifetime, so it really doesn't matter to me. That's a lot of money that will be potentially thrown away, that could be better used here. Of course, if Elon Musk wishes to throw his money into the wind, it's his to do with as he wishes.
But, as for sending folks up there on a sight seeing trip, it seems to be costly and very, very dangerous.
Short stays determine if it can be done. Longer stays will determine the real feasibility for possible permanent bases and the possibility for terraforming for the actual survival and colonization by humanity. Our Martian descendants will have to adapt and evolve there in the same way we have, and continue to evolve here, physically, socially and intellectually.
It won't happen in my lifetime either, and I leave no descendants of my own. Still, I wonder and hope my species will survive and succeed in become a light in the universe.

fdpaq0580 02-27-2024 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2305739)
Back when we were much younger much more dangerous to sail from Europe to America.
To sail where no one has sailed before!

Topspinmo 02-27-2024 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2305450)
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell. And there's no one there to raise them, if you did.

If they come daycare will follow.:sigh:

Topspinmo 02-27-2024 05:12 PM
With all problems in this country plus 35t and climbing like rocket heading for moon in debt I don’t see the point? Actually ISS waste of money now IMO.

Topspinmo 02-27-2024 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2305701)
Of
course we will travel to Mars, & beyond.
Not in our life time. Maybe in 100 years? :ohdear:

jimbomaybe 02-27-2024 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2305460)
Huh? Is there a basis for that assertion or are you just floating it out there?
put enough resources behind it you could send some astronauts and bring them back (hopefully) but as a permanent habitation seems like pie in the sky at this point, when Mars lost its magnetic field it lost most of its atmosphere and liquid water. Cold enough now that you have frozen CO2 in the polar region, perhaps I missed it but could not find any source , online, thinking terraforming has much of a chance

Hape2Bhr 02-27-2024 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2305718)
If our govt was smart they would take control of the new technologies that come about thru space exploration and license it to companies that want to make use of it.
Like a couple of very large Euro Asian countries do now? barf

frayedends 02-27-2024 06:15 PM
We should be able to fix any of earth’s problems long before we are capable of terraforming Mars. Obviously if we can make Mars habitable we can fix any climate issues or whatever happens here. If the sun explodes we need to go way further than Mars.

Apart from all that would I look for a Martian home on MLS or VLS?

Dusty_Star 02-27-2024 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2305703)
Speak for yourself, I’m pretty happy here in Florida myself.

I was speaking for mankind. I doubt I will be around.

Dusty_Star 02-27-2024 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2305763)
Not in our life time. Maybe in 100 years? :ohdear:
You are right.


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