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golfing eagles 02-27-2024 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2305763)
Not in our life time. Maybe in 100 years? :ohdear:

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2305777)
You are right.

And yet current NASA plans are for a manned Mars orbit in 2033 and a manned landing in 2039. Doubt they'll meet those goals, but I think it will be a lot sooner than 100 years.

Calisport 02-27-2024 07:39 PM

I don't think humans would survive the year long trip first of all.

shaw8700@outlook.com 02-27-2024 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2305460)
Huh? Is there a basis for that assertion or are you just floating it out there?

The earth is the only habitable planet/moon in the solar system. It is a waste of scarce resources to endeavor to live on any other place. We should spend our time and resources keeping this planet habitable. Anything else would be folly.

golfing eagles 02-27-2024 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2305802)
The earth is the only habitable planet/moon in the solar system. It is a waste of scarce resources to endeavor to live on any other place. We should spend our time and resources keeping this planet habitable. Anything else would be folly.

And yet humans have the ability and technology to make uninhabitable environments habitable. A continuous presence at the South pole and the ISS come immediately to mind. Folly would be to confine our species to just one planet in the future----after all, things happen to planets

Two Bills 02-28-2024 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2305774)
Like a couple of very large Euro Asian countries do now? barf

What/where are Euro Asian countries?

LuvNH 02-28-2024 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Calisport (Post 2305789)
I don't think humans would survive the year long trip first of all.

According to what I recently read, it is a nine month journey just to get to Mars. All you need is just one person to be slightly tilted off center, or to have two people take an immediate dislike to each other to cause the whole trip to malfunction. I imagine someone will say "well the powers that be will have to test people for this, that and the other"and still you will have someone unstable in that capsule. Nine months is a very long time.

CoachKandSportsguy 02-28-2024 07:21 AM

Has anyone asked Marvin his opinion?

IYKYK

KJ Dave 02-28-2024 07:23 AM

Agreed
 
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2305441)
No, I think Mars is very nice just as it is.

Those of us who love Mars don't want humans to move in and screw it up like they did to poor old Earth.

Skip our beautiful planet and give Jupiter a try. I never liked that bossy big planet anyway.

I think maybe humankind has already been to the other 8 planets as well as others and already screwed them up like we’re doing to Earth.

biker1 02-28-2024 07:30 AM

If your intent is to come up with reasons not to do something then it is easy to create a long list and do nothing. I suspect the various space agencies have bigger fish to fry such as shielding against high energy particles. By the way, the record for consecutive days in space is about 15 months. I'm pretty sure the Russian who holds that record didn't flip out or get in any fights with his crew members. An initial roundtrip mission to Mars will be a bit longer at about 21 months, depending on the date you depart and return (because of the orbital mechanics) and how much time is spent either in orbit around Mars or on the surface. There are some optimal times to go because of the orbital mechanics. 2033 is the earliest optimal time that it could happen (based on planning), but I suspect the probability of it actually happening is low because of budget and lack of certain technologies.

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2305856)
According to what I recently read, it is a nine month journey just to get to Mars. All you need is just one person to be slightly tilted off center, or to have two people take an immediate dislike to each other to cause the whole trip to malfunction. I imagine someone will say "well the powers that be will have to test people for this, that and the other"and still you will have someone unstable in that capsule. Nine months is a very long time.


golfing eagles 02-28-2024 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KJ Dave (Post 2305860)
I think maybe humankind has already been to the other 8 planets as well as others and already screwed them up like we’re doing to Earth.

Interesting post.

First of all, there are only 7 other planets in our solar system (Pluto is no longer classified as a planet), and "humankind" has not been to any of them. We have had probes land on 2 of them and flew by the rest.

Second, I'd be interested in knowing what "other planets" outside our solar system we have been to. After all, at our current max speed of about 25,000 mph, even if our nearest star (Proxima Centuri) had a planetary system, it would take approximately 115,000 years to get there. This means we had to launch an interstellar multigenerational mission before we invented the wheel.

Last, just how did we "screw up" other planets?

I'll leave it at that lest I write something that would be considered "insulting", other that to state res ipsa loquitur.

And BTW, nice first post, welcome to TOTV.

Dusty_Star 02-28-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2305858)
Has anyone asked Marvin his opinion?

IYKYK

Marvin is a welcoming sort

Normal 02-28-2024 08:34 AM

Please
 
Please find a way to send the antisocial aliens disguised as Earthlings back to their home planet.

defrey12 02-28-2024 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2305595)
Speak for yourself, we are a curious bunch of humans and can learn a lot by exploring.

Doesn’t mean we’re not still an insignificant speck…having curiosity and exploring doesn’t make us any more significant…

defrey12 02-28-2024 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2305802)
The earth is the only habitable planet/moon in the solar system. It is a waste of scarce resources to endeavor to live on any other place. We should spend our time and resources keeping this planet habitable. Anything else would be folly.

Agreed 👍

defrey12 02-28-2024 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2305811)
And yet humans have the ability and technology to make uninhabitable environments habitable. A continuous presence at the South pole and the ISS come immediately to mind. Folly would be to confine our species to just one planet in the future----after all, things happen to planets

Yes…and exactly how many people live on/at EITHER of those places? And at what expense? Hmmm 🤔?


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