[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

This is very impressive. Amazing how you are also an expert on so many other topics here, and possess a very strong opinion and wide open outlook on so many topics outside this narrow realm of expertise of HP printers. Yes, very impressive, thank you for sharing.

Not impressive at all. Some people are just - not narrowminded and myopic. Some people don't exist within the confines of their limited understanding of the world. Some people explore other ideas, some people do actual research just because they enjoy the stimulation, rather than simply running a google search and pasting the top results and calling it "facts." Some people have a liberal arts education, which requires them to learn bits and pieces about all kinds of things. Some people have done more than one thing in their lives, rather than finding a career and never venturing beyond it to learn about how other people live their lives. Some people have had a multitude of jobs in different fields and have become knowledgeable about topics pertaining to those fields. Some people had dads who brought their daughters to work with them on Saturdays and taught them how to operate and repair a folding machine so in addition to all the other random stuff they're good at, they also happen to be experts at operating and repairing folding machines.

Some people have more than one hobby and have cultivated their hobbies over the course of 50+ years, and have become experts at those hobbies as a result. Some people grew up with lots of diversity and were exposed to lots of different ideas and information, skills and cultures, even languages.

Perhaps these concepts might be foreign to other people, who would be impressed by all the above because they were never exposed to it all, or who were, but never learned to care about any of it. But in my world, it's pretty common and not particularly impressive at all.

[ElDiabloJoe]

You forgot "And some people are overly full of themselves and overestimate their skills, knowledge, and talent."

I'm pretty sure a liberal arts education is not something to be super proud of these days - usually means you studied something fanciful and near meaningless as to productivity and income earning ability. It could be something as simple as English or philosophy or something as edifying as "The habits of the Trill people of the western mountain tiers." None of which are more educational than a degree in "septum rings and blue hair."

[juddfl]

I like instant ink. I make jewelry and need to make copies of patterns. I take the patterns with me to the bead club to make my project. I would say that I make copies of various bead patterns every week. When I need the ink, I always have it on hand in the cabinet and don't have to run out to the store. For me this works.

[rnicholis]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Questions for users of HP instant Ink. We had a need to sign up for HP instant Ink when our son visited and worked from our home. We signed up for 100 copies per month and were supplied all ink cartridges required for about $7/month. Price went up to $8/mo and required copies diminished.

Long story shortened. Copy requirement reduced and ready to cancel HP Instant Ink but find out that all delivered cartridges will be disabled upon quit date.

Just wondering if others have encountered this situation?

Yes. Also I received one cartridge that didn’t work and they had me jump through a bunch of unnecessary maintenance and troubleshooting efforts on my printer which was fine and would not send me a replacement cartridge, I had to buy one and then cancelled the service and had to replace the one that was working. Done sign for the service. It is fine as long as everything goes well only.

[Pinball wizard]

Originally Posted by ResQme

Also, if you are really not printing much at all, change your plan to a lower plan. For example, my plan is 10 or 15 pages a month, I can't recall exactly, and I pay less monthly.

I think it's $1.75/mo.

[Pinball wizard]

Originally Posted by Grill Meister

Ik just purchased my second HP OfficeJet Pro, but never again from HP. I did not receive a user's manual with instructions on how to reduce print density, black only and any other achievements I wanted. I tried to secure a user manual from the interenet. I would have to give them my credit card info. Ain't gonna happen. I would also have to pay to have a conversation with one of their techs. HP.....you just lost me and I hope this note will be read by others.

I have to disagree. I just looked up a random HP Officejet manual and had no problem with it WITHOUT a credit card. I'm thinking you accidentally ended up at a 3rd party site and not HP.

[Pinball wizard]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

That business model of cheap printers / expensive ink is dead. Buy regular HP ink until the printer fails. Then toss it out and get an Epson EcoTank (I have the ET-4800) printer. Fantastic product. The Epson EcoTank ET-4800 can print up to 4,500 pages in black and 7,500 pages in color with a single set of ink bottles. This is equivalent to about 80 individual ink cartridges, according to Epson. And a complete set of bottles (two black and three color) can be purchased for under $30 on Amazon.

Kick HP to the curb.

HP Smart Tank Printer
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp...in-one-printer

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

This is very impressive. Amazing how you are also an expert on so many other topics here, and possess a very strong opinion and wide open outlook on so many topics outside this narrow realm of expertise of HP printers. Yes, very impressive, thank you for sharing.

Other than the fact that the poster is wrong about the printing process and how things get printed and what options are available.

Some documents are printed, formatted & controlled by the application that created the document. Some, by the application that's reading it ... others, are printed by the native operating system (printer driver) of the computer .... others are printed by your printer's driver. The Options can be different, depending on which "driver" is being used to print.

[ThirdOfFive]

I was a hardcore HP printer fan from as far back as the late 1990s. Liked the printers but NOT the price of the ink. When a new ink cartridge set costs well over half the cost of the printer, and sets kept getting spendier each time, I figured it was time to look elsewhere. About 2 1/2 years ago I dumped the HP and got myself an Epson Eco-Tank ET-3850 and am VERY glad I did. I print a lot, and am still on the original color tanks (maybe 60% gone). I did have to refill the black tank once but the printer came with two extra black ink bottles. Bottom line: from paying a couple hundred dollars per year for printer ink, I'm down to paying pennies--if this printer ever runs out of color ink before I upgrade to another Epson model, that is.

Print quality is excellent: B&W or color. The Epson is a bit clunkier than the HPs were: no touch screen, for example, and the screen displaying printer info is pretty minuscule. It is also a bit slower than my last HP. But it means more money in my pocket so I'll gladly put up with the minor inconveniences.