[jjffjj]

Buyer beware

Timothy Moore FirePlace Installers (TM) was contracted to install a 500 gallon propane tank. Workmanship and material (parts and labor) are satisfactory.TM was paid in full day of install. Administratively and monetarily are our issues at hand. 06/01/2020 TM employee gives me an estimate for installing a 500 Propane tank that I agreed to and signed a contract. Delivery /install are satisfactory. Inspector with Marion County Building department had/has several documented issues with TM not fulfilling their permit responsibilities as contracted and issued another fee. This has been ongoing for several months now and I had to pay their late fees so I could move forward with other banking business I have. Well over a dozen phone calls made by me, not counting how many times Marion county and regions Bank has also tried to get them to fulfill their obligation

[villagetinker]

OP, your post is confusing, but I think you are asking for advice on how to proceed. I would contact Seniors against crime and BBB and file complaints with both.

[dewilson58]

Unfortunately most (I want to say all) area contractors are not good at the administrative stuff.


Size does not matter...........even one of the largest contractor (two initials, with an "&" sign between) was a nightmare.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I’ve read this post 3 times still can’t figure out what the problem is and I can’t figure out why I care

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

I’ve read this post 3 times still can’t figure out what the problem is and I can’t figure out why I care

No Man Is an Island


No man is an island,

Entire of itself;

Every man is a piece of the continent,

A part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea,

Europe is the less,

As well as if a promontory were:

As well as if a manor of thy friend's

Or of thine own were.

Any man's death diminishes me,

Because I am involved in mankind.

And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;

It tolls for thee.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

No Man Is an Island


No man is an island,

Entire of itself;

Every man is a piece of the continent,

A part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea,

Europe is the less,

As well as if a promontory were:

As well as if a manor of thy friend's

Or of thine own were.

Any man's death diminishes me,

Because I am involved in mankind.

And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;

It tolls for thee.

Doc!!!

Who knew that your great intelligence extended to poetry. Wow fellow. I am further impressed. I bet your fiance' looks up at you proudly.

[retiredguy123]

Shouldn't it be the property owner's responsibilty to have a permit? I know the contractor can get the permit, but, it seems as though the ultimate responsibility is with the property owner to ensure the work has been properly permitted. Also, if the county needs to inspect the work, payment should not be have been made until it passed the inspection.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Doc!!!

Who knew that your great intelligence extended to poetry. Wow fellow. I am further impressed. I bet your fiance' looks up at you proudly.

Um, that's a poem by a man named John Donne, written over 400 years ago. You've never heard the phrase "for whom the bell tolls" before? Or were you just waxing sarcastic?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Shouldn't it be the property owner's responsibilty to have a permit? I know the contractor can get the permit, but, it seems as though the ultimate responsibility is with the property owner to ensure the work has been properly permitted. Also, if the county needs to inspect the work, payment should not be have been made until it passed the inspection.

It's the property owner's responsibility to ensure that all the permits are in place. But that doesn't mean the property owner has to be the ones to acquire the permits. Usually contractors handle whatever permits apply to the scope of the work they're contracted to do on the owner's behalf, and the costs of the permits are built into the contract.

Sometimes they're not acquired by the contractor, and sometimes - a contractor will claim he's getting it, and not get it. That's why it's ultimately up to the owner to make sure SOMEONE gets those permits before the work starts.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It's the property owner's responsibility to ensure that all the permits are in place. But that doesn't mean the property owner has to be the ones to acquire the permits. Usually contractors handle whatever permits apply to the scope of the work they're contracted to do on the owner's behalf, and the costs of the permits are built into the contract.

Sometimes they're not acquired by the contractor, and sometimes - a contractor will claim he's getting it, and not get it. That's why it's ultimately up to the owner to make sure SOMEONE gets those permits before the work starts.

Yes, but the biggest mistake was that the OP paid the contractor before the job was completed. The job is not done until the county inspects and approves the work.