[Swoop]

Originally Posted by rrb48310

Ok, BUT have you heard of anyone who had Covid say I’m glad I didn’t get the shot?

I personally know of friends and acquaintances that were “non-vaccers “ that got Covid were hospitalized and recovered that now are posting on social media to get vaccinated.

Why take the chance

I agree with a fellow poster, it’s about protecting one another (not political) and our economy. Matthew 25 looking out for your fellow man (woman and CHILDREN).

Let me be the first to tell you that I had Covid and I’m still glad that I didn’t get the shot.

My stages were:
1: Dry cough for a couple of days
2: Then a little lethargic for a three days. Two of those days I had muscle/joint aches
3: Temporary loss of smell

My doctor offered a Steroids, I opted not to.
Since my cough lasted three weeks. That classified me as a Covid long hauler. (Any symptoms lasting more than two weeks is classified as long haul)
It’s been seven weeks since my initial symptoms. I have antibodies, I feel normal and I haven’t received a vaccine that has no long term studies regarding side it’s effects.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Let me be the first to tell you that I had Covid and I’m still glad that I didn’t get the shot.

My stages were:
1: Dry cough for a couple of days
2: Then a little lethargic for a three days. Two of those days I had muscle/joint aches
3: Temporary loss of smell

My doctor offered a Steroids, I opted not to.
Since my cough lasted three weeks. That classified me as a Covid long hauler. (Any symptoms lasting more than two weeks is classified as long haul)
It’s been seven weeks since my initial symptoms. I have antibodies, I feel normal and I haven’t received a vaccine that has no long term studies regarding side it’s effects.

Glad to hear you are alright!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

The fallacy of this list is that "Stage 1" is in the hospital. This is because Fauci and friends (NIH, CDC, FDA, fakebook, google, twitter, youtube) suppress and censor any and all treatment options. I had COVID. I beat it back in 48 hours with a treatment classified as "misinformation" by the pundits. The real list should begin something like:

Stage 1: you don't feel well and you think might have COVID. Go get tested.

Stage 2: Ignore Fauci and begin early treatment options that are working. America's Frontline Doctors have much to offer including early treatment options. This is from many doctors who are actually treating COVID patients. Fauci has not treated anyone for COVID.

Stage 3: End of COVID infection whether vaccinated or not.

Failure to do the above and just waiting at home with no treatment to see what your body will do on its own (other than a coerced vax, this is the only recommended action by Fauci, and all the 3-letter agencies) and then you have a good chance of a hospital visit.

Not getting vaccinated is not the problem. Suppression of valid, effective treatment options in order to coerce vaccination is the problem. Think for yourselves. Don't let anyone do it for you.

I (not vaccinated and staying that way) was infected along with my friend Rich (Pfizer vax) on Aug 18 at a local pub. We both got mildly sick (fever, headache, etc) at the same time and we both tested positive for the Delta variant. I took immediate action (already had "prohibited" meds on hand and ready to go from Frontline Doctors). I had enough for Rich and offered them to him. He refused preferring to rely on his Pfizer promise. A week later he was not improving and went in for the monoclonal crap. It will be 5 weeks tomorrow and he is still too weak to go out for a beer. My recovery was so fast (48 hours) that I didn't even infect my wife who shares a bed with me. No, Rich is not dead. Pfizer may have kept him from getting deathly ill. But, he is still a mess 5 weeks later.

I went and got the anti-body test and I now have robust natural immunity.

I know many of you will just file this under "misinformation". Do so at your own peril or that of your relatives who like me will never bow to Saint Anthony (fauci).

P. S. I am 64 and Rich is 67

You are younger than me and my husband. We are both eighty.

The other treatments that you mention may be available to those diagnosed with Covid...

But the Vaccine gives you immunity to Covid to a very high degree.

Dr. Fauci is a scientist. I respect his background and his opinion.

How can WE reading this be sure that you tested positive for the "Delta Variant". I was not aware that there was a test for the Delta Variant available to the public.

What prohibited meds are you speaking of? Ivermectin? It isn't prohibited. Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA

The antibody treatment is free and available in The Villages but it is easier to be vaccinated.

I feel skeptical about some of the things you said.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Sign me up!

Only problem at this time is the side effects. You will be protected against ALL viruses, BUT the vaccine causes bald head, heavy beard, warts on nose, man boobs and sagging butt. But, you will never have to worry about ever catching a virus.
Women may or may not find an issue with the side effects......

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Overall three percent of Americans have died from Covid, that is including all ages, but when you group older people alone, the number doubles.

three percent of all Americans have died from covid?? Hardly

333 million times 3% = 9,990,000

The actual percentage of Americans who have died?

687,783 covid deaths USA divided by 333 million = 0.2 %

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You are younger than me and my husband. We are both eighty.

The other treatments that you mention may be available to those diagnosed with Covid...
Not from a mainstream doctor - you have to go outside the regimented system.

But the Vaccine gives you immunity to Covid to a very high degree.
But, I (and many others) choose to NOT be vaccinated so that is a moot point.

Dr. Fauci is a scientist. I respect his background and his opinion.
Many people do. But, since he (and others) down play and suppress the experiences and treatments that other doctors have for early treatment of COVID, he loses all credibility with me. His ONLY treatment is vax and that is what makes him a charlatan.

How can WE reading this be sure that you tested positive for the "Delta Variant". I was not aware that there was a test for the Delta Variant available to the public.
Tested in Maryland at a county site. Yes, they can tell if it is Delta. This was not a home self-test.

What prohibited meds are you speaking of? Ivermectin? It isn't prohibited. Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA
And here you are quoting the FDA. I don't trust them at all. I believe I said that. HCQ which is almost impossible to get but has a 50+ year safety record and works unbelievably well when used very early. Fauci doesn't want anything to work so as to promote universal vax. And HCQ doesn't screw with my immune system (mRNA making spike proteins to provoke an artificial immune response).

The antibody treatment is free and available in The Villages but it is easier to be vaccinated.
That was my plan B. HCQ was plan A and it worked fabulously. HCQ (taken with zinc) greatly improves zinc absorption in cells which curtails viral replication. Done.

I feel skeptical about some of the things you said.
No kidding. Well, then don't pass this on to the people you love that refuse vaccination. Just sit there and hope they will be OK (i.e. do nothing).

FYI - wife also not vax'd and staying that way.

[Pommom91]

Powerful. Made me cry.

[macawlaw]

Pfizer has full FDA approval, From the FDA website (Comirnaty and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | FDA). On August 23, 2021, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by drducat

Pfizer dopes not have FDA approval...only emergency use. The BioNTech has full approval under its label....can't take Pfizer to court if anything goes wrong.....BioNTech is not protected from being liable...only under that one label which can be found no where.

That is incorrect;

FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine | FDA

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by Boomer

I have never done a cut-and-paste from a published article, but that's the only way I could do this. Unlike other cut-and-pastes I have seen that often do not cite the source, I will do so. . .

This is what is known to research as a primary source. Primary sources are defined as first-hand accounts of a topic by people who had a connection with it.

The following article was published in the Op-Ed section of the LA Times, August 26, 2021. The writer is Karen Gallardo, a respiratory therapist at Community Memorial Hospital in Ventura.

Great, another fear porn Covid horror story to enjoy with my coffee.

You do realize you are preaching to an audience of villagers who are probably 95% vaccinated?

We have been bombarded with covid porn horror stories for a year and a half now and they accomplish nothing.

If you are under 50 your chances of dying from covid are 25/100,000. If you are under 65 your chances of dying from influenza and pnuemonia are close to 100/100,000 That's 5 times the rate for covid.

If you are one of the over 100 million americans who have survived covid, your chances of reinfection and death are close to zero.

If you are over 65, and have never had covid, you should (in order of effectiveness)

1. Get fully vaccinated, and get booster shot when available
2. Practice social distancing, even with friends who are vaccinated
3. Lose some freakin weight, 42% of you are obese
4. Wear an N95 mask when indoors with others.

Old people have a right to be afraid of covid. They do not have a right to insist that the young and healthy or covid survivors get vaccinated. Instead of whining about others, try eating more healthy foods, take walks, go swimming, ride a bike etc.

Except for some island nations in the south pacific, and Kuwait, Americans are the fattest country on earth. Which is a major reason why we have had so many deaths from covid.

CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese

Covid: CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized were overweight or obese

Adult Obesity Facts | Overweight & Obesity | CDC.

Most Obese Countries 2021

QuickStats: Death Rates from Influenza and Pneumonia Among Persons Aged ≥65 Years, by Sex and Age Group — National Vital Statistics System, United States, 2018 | MMWR

[Snookie100]

Not everyone goes to the hospital or dies. But why take the risk?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by SkBlogW

three percent of all Americans have died from covid?? Hardly

333 million times 3% = 9,990,000

The actual percentage of Americans who have died?

687,783 covid deaths USA divided by 333 million = 0.2 %

I knew I was wrong the minute I read it. Thank you for correcting me.

Six hundred thousand people have died from Covid. I believe that. The debaters say how do you know? I see no reason for people to lie. The debaters say...it is being made serious so the makers of the vaccine can sell it. But I say........ This is just not happening here. This is happening all over the world. This virus has not been here before and it is killing people. NOW with the Delta Variant it is much more contagious. At first we worried about washing our hands but now we know the main danger is indoors in poorly ventilated areas.

[Geodyssey]

Originally Posted by Singerlady

If that article isn’t enough to get the vaccine, I don’t know what is. Scary stuff.

Another anecdotal scare article. So many of those... BOO!

So here's another-

Wife and I both had the coof last year. Was like a cold/flu. Lasted 6 or 7 days, no lingering effects except natural immunity.

Not very scary, now was it?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Let me be the first to tell you that I had Covid and I’m still glad that I didn’t get the shot.

My stages were:
1: Dry cough for a couple of days
2: Then a little lethargic for a three days. Two of those days I had muscle/joint aches
3: Temporary loss of smell

My doctor offered a Steroids, I opted not to.
Since my cough lasted three weeks. That classified me as a Covid long hauler. (Any symptoms lasting more than two weeks is classified as long haul)
It’s been seven weeks since my initial symptoms. I have antibodies, I feel normal and I haven’t received a vaccine that has no long term studies regarding side it’s effects.

I think I have asked you before. How old are you?

Age makes a huge difference as to how this virus affects people. I am very glad you are okay. You are fortunate. However, the vaccine is safe for most people and reliable.

How old are you??

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

FYI - wife also not vax'd and staying that way.

stay away from me. I avoid the anti-vexers like the plague.