[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am from Ohio where I was taught you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

I was born and raised on Long Island and my mother would say the same thing to me and my sisters.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

Florida is doing better than NY and NJ. I expanded the list to all 50 states. Again, watching TV one would think FL and TX were the two states with the highest rates. This is yet another reason why people do not trust what is being reported. I'd like to add, the gov't restricting the monoclonal meds to Fl comes across as a very petty, partisan issue. Definitely divisive.

Don't post the entire article that you found but the name of the publication or a link to the site would be useful.

WaPo Covid tracker. Near the top under "Places with Highest Daily..."
NYT table. See "State Trends"

Florida, Texas, and Louisiana peaked earlier and are now declining. The surge has now moved on to other states.

The WaPo table shows 42 daily reported cases per 100,000 in FL but only 26 for New Jersey and 27 for New York. And again, Florida is on the way down from a peak of about 80 daily reported cases per 100,000.

The rationing/distributing of the antibodies definitely has a bad feel to it.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by KRMACK55

Do you run this forum ? There is a group here of people who are on everyday ! Mostly the east coast, aggressive judgemental and petty. Villages Florida friendliest home town is not friendly and it’s too crowded with more like you every day.

How dare you say that to our Gracie Girl. East coasters are aggressive? Yup. You got that right and I'm one of them. PLEASE be nice to Gracie.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

The percentage of people vaccinated who carry a viral load is "most likely" many times what is reported. Assuming the claim that the vaccine makes for very mild or even asymptomatic cases, the probability that many positive vaccinated covid Delta carriers are unaware.

Or, alternatively, THEY ARE NOT CARRYING IT AT ALL. Yes, I know it doesn't fit the "anti-vaxxers" narrative, but that's life. I clearly remember lining up in the school gym to get a sugar cube with Sabin vaccine. Thank God there weren't any "anti-vaxxers" back then, or we'd still be dealing with poliomyelitis.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I was born and raised on Long Island and my mother would say the same thing to me and my sisters.

where?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Like most, I went through a year without a vaccination. I had intended NOT to get vaccinated because Biden and Harris told us not to trust the vaccine. Then I saw on TV that they both got vaccinated before it was even available for the rest of us. What gives with that? Is it safe or not? Why did they tell us that it was not safe and now they want to FORCE us to take it?

Oh........My..........Goodness!!!

I would think by now you would know the REAL reason Biden and Harris did not trust the vaccine. They made that statement only if the vaccine received the EAU when Trump was STILL IN OFFICE. I understand why they said it. I would not trust the vaccine either if it were rushed into American's arms while Trump was still in office.

I'm so thankful the vaccine did not receive EUA while Trump was in office. I feel very confident with the safety of the vaccine and not that the vaccine was a pawn for political gain for Trump.

MODERATOR........PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not delete this post. The truth needs to be said and if there are people who believe what this poster is intimating; that misinformation MUST be debunked. The poster even queried, "what gives with that?", so I answered his/her query.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Oh........My..........Goodness!!!

I would think by now you would know the REAL reason Biden and Harris did not trust the vaccine. They made that statement only if the vaccine received the EAU when Trump was STILL IN OFFICE. I understand why they said it. I would not trust the vaccine either if it were rushed into American's arms while Trump was still in office.

I'm so thankful the vaccine did not receive EUA while Trump was in office. I feel very confident with the safety of the vaccine and not that the vaccine was a pawn for political gain for Trump.

MODERATOR........PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not delete this post. The truth needs to be said and if there are people who believe what this poster is intimating, that misinformation MUST be debunked. The poster even queried, "what gives with that?", so I answered his/her query.

I agree. The prosecution opened the door when he asked the question on direct examination

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Don't post the entire article that you found but the name of the publication or a link to the site would be useful.

WaPo Covid tracker. Near the top under "Places with Highest Daily..."
NYT table. See "State Trends"

Florida, Texas, and Louisiana peaked earlier and are now declining. The surge has now moved on to other states.

The WaPo table shows 42 daily reported cases per 100,000 in FL but only 26 for New Jersey and 27 for New York. And again, Florida is on the way down from a peak of about 80 daily reported cases per 100,000.

The rationing/distributing of the antibodies definitely has a bad feel to it.

I will get you the site that shows cases per 100,000. It is the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center. Both the Hopkins stats and the WAPO stats you linked to shows that Florida is in a much better position than some would have us think.

I have read your (WaPo, NYT wants me to subscribe) and it shows trends for the 50 states. This is the site you referenced.
Place Total reported cases per 100k Avg. daily new cases per 100k Change in daily cases in last 7 days
U.S. overall 12,760 40 -14%
Northern Mariana Islands 466 4 100%
Wisconsin 13,518 56 49%
Vermont 5,141 34 30%
Alaska 13,685 117 29%
Minnesota 12,271 39 17%
Montana 13,457 86 14%
Pennsylvania 10,875 37 9%
New York 12,151 27 7%
Connecticut 10,832 19 6%
Massachusetts 11,562 27 6%
Michigan 11,270 32 4%
Iowa 13,967 55 4%
Delaware 13,271 47 3%
Maine 6,335 34 2%
Maryland 8,640 20 1%
American Samoa 0 0 –
District of Columbia 8,461 32 0%
Colorado 11,378 32 -2%
New Jersey 12,808 26 -2%
West Virginia 12,598 100 -2%
Virgin Islands 6,225 30 -3%
Virginia 9,879 41 -4%
Kentucky 14,808 87 -5%
New Hampshire 8,503 30 -6%
Idaho 13,732 67 -6%
New Mexico 11,762 29 -6%
North Dakota 16,702 61 -6%
Arizona 14,711 34 -8%
Ohio 11,684 57 -8%
Rhode Island 16,048 32 -8%
Nebraska 13,497 38 -8%
Washington 8,287 40 -9%
Wyoming 14,868 89 -10%
Guam 8,444 88 -12%
Nevada 13,426 34 -13%
North Carolina 12,937 56 -14%
Utah 15,516 45 -14%
Missouri 13,131 33 -14%
Oklahoma 15,183 47 -15%
California 11,224 20 -17%
Mississippi 16,106 52 -18%
Illinois 12,668 26 -18%
Oregon 7,465 38 -19%
Puerto Rico 9,891 10 -20%
Alabama 15,878 60 -20%
Indiana 13,979 49 -21%
Arkansas 16,133 46 -22%
Georgia 14,586 47 -23%
Kansas 13,796 40 -24%
South Carolina 16,215 70 -25%
Florida 16,423 42 -26%
Hawaii 5,405 33 -28%
Texas 13,650 46 -28%
South Dakota 15,954 46 -28%
Tennessee 17,435 75 -29%
Louisiana 15,746 31 -37%

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Or, alternatively, THEY ARE NOT CARRYING IT AT ALL. Yes, I know it doesn't fit the "anti-vaxxers" narrative, but that's life. I clearly remember lining up in the school gym to get a sugar cube with Sabin vaccine. Thank God there weren't any "anti-vaxxers" back then, or we'd still be dealing with poliomyelitis.

They are not carrying it at all? LOL Is that why CDC suddenly changed course and told fully vaccinated people to wear masks when indoors???

From the CDC:


People infected with the Delta variant, including fully vaccinated people with symptomatic breakthrough infections, can transmit the virus to others. CDC is continuing to assess data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit the virus.

Delta Variant: What We Know About the Science | CDC

So what percentage of covid cases recently, during delta surge, arer among the fully vaccinated.

CDC study in Los Angeles

The new data released on Tuesday involved more than 43,000 reported infections among Los Angeles County residents aged 16 and older. Of them, 10,895, or 25.3%, occurred in fully vaccinated persons, 1,431, or 3.3%, were in partially vaccinated persons, and 30,801, or 71.4%, were in unvaccinated individuals.

Los Angeles Director of Public Health Barbara Ferrer:

Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge

In Los Angeles, Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

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It surprises me that non vaxers would use the regeneron treatment... isn't that going against all they believe and preach...how convenient.

I concur.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by SkBlogW

They are not carrying it at all? LOL Is that why CDC suddenly changed course and told fully vaccinated people to wear masks when indoors???

From the CDC:


People infected with the Delta variant, including fully vaccinated people with symptomatic breakthrough infections, can transmit the virus to others. CDC is continuing to assess data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit the virus.

Delta Variant: What We Know About the Science | CDC

So what percentage of covid cases recently, during delta surge, arer among the fully vaccinated.

CDC study in Los Angeles

The new data released on Tuesday involved more than 43,000 reported infections among Los Angeles County residents aged 16 and older. Of them, 10,895, or 25.3%, occurred in fully vaccinated persons, 1,431, or 3.3%, were in partially vaccinated persons, and 30,801, or 71.4%, were in unvaccinated individuals.

Los Angeles Director of Public Health Barbara Ferrer:

Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge

In Los Angeles, Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge

And next week there will be more breakthrough cases, and even more the week after that. As we get further away from the dates the first vaccines were administered, the more immunity will wane. All you have done is make a case for the booster vaccine.

You cannot sit there and cherry pick a few snippets from a google search and understand the virology and epidemiology of this pandemic

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

I will get you the site that shows cases per 100,000. It is the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center. Both the Hopkins stats and the WAPO stats you linked to shows that Florida is in a much better position than some would have us think.

I have read your (WaPo, NYT wants me to subscribe) and it shows trends for the 50 states. This is the site you referenced.
Place Total reported cases per 100k Avg. daily new cases per 100k Change in daily cases in last 7 days
U.S. overall 12,760 40 -14%
...
New York 12,151 27 7%
...
New Jersey 12,808 26 -2%
...
Florida 16,423 42 -26%
...
Texas 13,650 46 -28%
...

Are you referring to this JHU table? That table is incorrect, it is showing total daily cases not adjusted for population. You can see this by toggling the WaPo data from Adj. for population to Totals. If you do that then the JHU numbers and the WaPo numbers match pretty closely. Plus, do you really believe Florida has zero daily cases as shown in that JHU table?

You can see in the data you posted that FL and TX are both still worse then NY and NJ. Both are declining but are still high. The graphs of the data will show FL hit 80 at one point.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Just the opposite. The Moderna vaccine actually is faring better than the Pfizer vaccine with a real life efficiency that remains in the high 80s to 90s percent and those percentages do include the Delta variant.

I figure my immunity is in the high 80s at this point because of my age but that is just a gut feeling I have. I had a “kick ass” side effect after my second Moderna shot so I know my immune system works very well. Now I’m beginning to reconsider getting the booster so soon. I have to discuss the booster with my PCP, hopefully today.

Quoting myself here..........

I spoke with my PCP today and was informed I do not meet the criteria for a booster shot at this time. Oh well, I will wait until I am eligible.

[Nucky]

Originally Posted by geodyssey

the government would never lie, so they say. You can trust them because they are here to help. Lol.

Trump is out there still touting vaccines. He (and brietbart, etc) even call it the "trump vaccine".

Have at it.

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[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Well, considering neither the FDA, nor the CDC nor Moderna has approved/recommended an booster yet...

This gets more confusing to me. I just want to try to get this straight.......

Currently, aren't people who are immunocompromised (cancer patients, organ recipients, people on immunosuppressant drugs as examples) eligible for Pfizer or Moderna booster shots? OR is it just Pfizer?