Ummm.....what do you think will happen to nonvaccers?? Just wondering

Oh...for the love of god!

Did you even read the threads I was repling to?

Do you work for the MSM and not tell the whole story?

Oh, get over yourselves. At this stage the SCIENCE says get the shots and you're good to go. ANYONE can get a Covid shot. I do not have an obligation to defer to "stupid". You have the right to stay locked down and wear your mask while driving alone in your car but stop with the virtue signaling. The science is clear. You don't want to get a shot, welcome to Darwin in action.

Oh, I get it...I know all those nonvaxxers will not live, they are signing their own certificate...it truly is a short time until this happens.
I guess I was reading it wrong....oh well, it's nice to have the vac and peace of mind.

India is gong thru what we already went through last winter. They are way behind the curve in vaccinations and yet their case load per 100k is less than the US. Send them all the help they need but realize the media has, once again. blown this way out of proportion.

I have a dear friend that hates the thought if the vaccine, believes it's a hoax, that in time she'll be made to get it. She's in a major panic...scared over tracers in vaccine. Shes panicked.....she died.....47 of a massive heart attack.........

And the Flat Earth Society has recruited more members!

Going maskless does not feel strange at all to me. It feels LIBERATING and absolutely wonderful. I still keep my distance and probably will still do that for a long time. I will not be hanging out in crowds any time soon, that's for sure.

Example of this please MAINSTREAM media not telling the whole story

Thanks

Please share the visions you see in your crystal ball with the rest of mankind. Since you seem to be the only one who thinks he knows what the long term outcome will be for those who received the vaccine. Because there is absolutely no statistical science for you to reference...

Not quite "over night". It took a few million vaccinations to arrive at these CDC guidelines. Science evolves on an on going basis. The immunity our country is developing is guiding the guidance.

YOUR science says get the shot. MY science says tread carefully. This vaccine was rushed to production, has not been fully vetted, is experimental, and we just don't know the long term effects. The science is NOT clear at all, the recommendations changed day to day because they just don't know what they don't know. Those are indisputable facts that maybe you can justify, I cannot.

I haven't been locked down ever. In fact, every day I went to work at a hospital where at one point there were 70 Covid-infected patients under the same roof as me. An infested hospital where I had direct interaction w the people providing direct care to the infected. Nor will I go into lock down now. I'm pretty sure the ones you see wearing masks while driving alone in their car are those ultra paranoid of contracting C19. They were the first in line to receive a vaccine. Those holding off on getting a vaccine just aren't that paranoid as evidenced by the fact they weren't first in line to receive the vaccine.

Virtue Signaling: the sharing of one's point of view on a social or political issue, often on social media, in order to garner praise or acknowledgment of one’s righteousness from others who share that point of view, or to passively rebuke those who do not.

I will conclude my response to your condescending, critical, fundamentally wrong, and worthless response by saying, but I'm the stupid one. I'm certain its intent will be lost.

I'm not going to comment on your opinion, but I will only say there is no MY science and YOUR science, just science.

The people that read into everything without going back to see others post's in context. And you just joined that group.

Just like the MSM

The current 500 plus thousand DEAD from CV is probably an undercounting. To NOT be aware of this is like " whistling past the graveyard".

We see things differently. I have never felt manipulated. I have felt protected by a government agency that deals with public health.......my health, my husband's health, my family's health, my community's health, my country's health. Yup....we see things differently.

I wish to hell one very influential person would rally his supporters to go and get vaccinated. While he is at it, he should tell his supporters that he and his wife were vaccinated when they were still in the White House. Those are the folks who need the nudging from what all the polls are revealing.

Good post! Very true and logical!

Gee, that's not what I heard from the news source I listen to. It has been reported that India is experiencing the highest rates of deaths per capita in the world since the beginning of the pandemic. Anyone else hear this? Did I hear it incorrectly?

I guess you are not aware that the mRNA vaccines began their infancy of development back in 1990. No, this technology is not new. The "tweeking" of the vaccine for this specific SARS CoV2 virus is what was in development recently, once the scientists had the information they needed from China to do the "tweeking".

Just wondering what you will be saying once these mRNA vaccines receive full FDA approval. That won't be very long. You may have to get another mantra.

I also often wonder what our society would look like today if like minded people such as yourself, refused to receive the small pox vaccine when that pandemic was raging. The small pox vaccine eradicated that deadly disfiguring virus from this earth. It is a very scary thought to think what our society would be like if there were anti-vaxxers, non-vaxxers, hesitant-vaxxers, religious conciencous anti-vaxxers and such around back then. Oh, my. The hair on the back of my neck stands up.

I've never known anyone that KNEW they were being manipulated. I am sure they never "FELT manipulated" when the fact was that they were being manipulated. Just saying. Not saying you are being manipulated. But, a gov that controls is guilty of manipulation of the masses.

He has repeatedly urged his supporters to get vaccinated. After all it was his administration that gave us two effective vaccines in record time. If your leaders like Cuomo hadn’t planted the seeds of distrust the rollout would have been quicker. But keep blaming the past to take the focus off the growing failures since February.

Quite possibly this forum would not exist then.

My crystal ball says that Global Warming will continue to be a big problem. It says that all around the world, and in America, democracies are being hard-pressed to fend off dictatorships. My crystal ball says that the US Government should limit the power of Facebook before it is too late.

As to our 3 CV vaccines - they were rigorously tested before approval. Just like all other vaccines in the US. Dr. Osterholm, Dr. Fauci, Dr. Vin Gupta and many others are very happy with the way these vaccines have been successful in fighting the CV Pandemic.

That may be true but I still feel totally in control of my actions and decision making processes. Thank you, though.

And you'd be wrong. You do realize there are as many scientists warning against the vaccine as there are those promoting the vaccine. Right? Sooooo.... there is a yours and my science, depending on which scientist you tend to lean toward.

I have never felt more manipulated in my life. So I agree, we see things very differently. I accept that. Can you?

You are 100% misinformed....

Different strokes for different folks I guess. So, yes, I can accept it.

I will be delighted once immunity is removed from the vaccine manufacturers and from the FDA. If the vaccine receives full approval, I would expect the vaccine is no different than any other drug on the market. IF it hurts me, I can make a claim for damages. Oh right, there have been no approved drugs that ultimately injured people, right? I am not willing to accept the vaccine's current risk. What do you not understand about risk-benefit? Should I contract C19, I am not likely to suffer serious consequence. IF I take an unknown vaccine, I don't know what might result. Perhaps you should just respect other's positions and leave it at that. Yes?


You should really know your subject matter before you opine on it.

In 1796, Edward Jenner in the UK created the first successful smallpox vaccine, but it wasn't until the 1950s that vaccine treatments began to effectively eradicate the disease in some parts of the world.

Then, in 1967, a global effort that provided a higher level of vaccine production and an advancement in needle technology eventually lead to eradication of the disease by 1980.

The smallpox vaccine def didn't arrive in less than a year from inception to conception. If you're game for the c19 vaccine, cool. Stop pushing YOUR needs on me.

No....there's not! Where do you get your information from???

I agree

Credible links to substantiate your Wild claim.

Or it is just talk.

There’s a difference between SCIENCE evolving and SCIENTISTS waffling according to which way the political wind blows. Sadly you are more wedded to scientists with your political bias than objective science.

First, he has never urged anyone to get the vaccine.....

As a matter of fact, when distribution began, there was a PR group who wanted to get all living Presidents to push getting vaccinated.

Want to guess who the only one....the only one who refused.

Yep, it were HIm

When you make a claim about HIM giving us a vaccine, first, Germany may have something to say. Their money and science gave us Pfizer. Moderna had begun work in their vaccine in late December 2009, while we were being told this was just like the annual flu and not to be concerned.

Why do you continue to post knowingly false information on here ?

PS...Moderna did take some money to finish up, but they were well on their way. Pfizer took no money, and only got a purchase order IF

So, you are just blowing smoke and have no credible links.

Of course, with any and all things, especially in the age of such media there are always, BUT YOU SAID...

"You do realize there are as many scientists warning against the vaccine as there are those promoting the vaccine. "

I am calling you on that and asking you to make a case. It is false and you know it.

Credible? Pretty certain you and I will not agree on who is credible so I'll spare my valuable time. But in the end, it is not my job to educate you, you are an adult. Seek the info wo being spoon fed. All you need to do is Duck Duck Go the issue, pretty sure you'll find plenty. I know you will, I just tested it.

See post #120.