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Old 08-25-2020, 08:01 AM
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If your haven't already seen this, take a look.

Activist critical of police undergoes use of force scenarios - YouTube

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Old 08-25-2020, 08:01 AM
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I agree. I would like to see statistics on how many white people don't listen to police versus black people.
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:17 AM
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Some years ago did a workshop with Roanoke police that simulates what officers go thru during training including traffic stops.

Have to be very careful as who knows what the person you are stopping is capable of. Interesting if they first called in license and knew they were dealing with person with violent past.
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:24 AM
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"As he was walking away to check on his children, police fired their weapons seven times into his back at point blank range."

I can't imagine the thinking behind his decision to check on his kids while the police were pointing guns at him. I'm sure they were also giving him commands to follow.

I will not rush to judgment on whether the cop acted properly or not.

I can say that I wouldn't want to be the officer that felt the need to shoot Mr Blake. I can imagine the fear of the situation. A man clearly disregarding my commands as I point my gun at him and goes around his vehicle, opens the drivers door and reaches inside as I pull at his shirt. Now I have to decide if I want to wait and see what he's reaching for and hope it's not a gun. If it's a gun I'll probably get shot, if he's just taking this moment to check on his kids then I'll be in a lot of trouble. If I shoot I'm a bad cop, if I don't I could be a dead cop.

If I was a cop, I would quit my job. I would not want people like Mr Blake putting me in this situation because he wanted to go check on his kids while 3 cops have guns pointed at him.

I have defended blm and stand against racism where racism exists but I don't defend the actions of people that put our police officers in dangerous situations so they can call it racism, for a money grab or whatever.

Hopefully the investigation will exonerate the police and Mr Blake will recover fully.
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:35 AM
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This was not VERY WELL COVERED! It was very one sided as most of these shootings are!
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:42 AM
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Same Police Department in Wisconsin shot and killed a white Son in front of his mother and sibling upon over reaction of police. https://www.channel3000.com/man-whos...-investigated/
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The recent shooting in Wisconsin just reconfirmed the need for changes in the police departments all over the country. That doesn’t mean that Blue Lives don’t matter to me. This is not a political discussion- I’m just trying to understand how/why this could have happened. Doesn’t the fact that seven officers responding to the call in the first place tell us something?

I was disgusted watching Jacob Blake, after breaking up a fight between two women, being shot seven times in the back at close range while his three sons in the car watched. How can anyone refute the fact that there’s systemic racism in this country, and the first place to start repairing it is in the police departments?
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In 99% of police shootings once all the facts are out it is clear why they shot and are found not guilty. The police tried to stop him getting into his car by nonviolent means first (grabbing his shirt) then when Blake bent down to grab a weapon the police had to defend themselves and shot. As regards the seven shots, in a
tense situation one bullet or even several may not stop a determined criminal.
There was no mention of a weapon of any kind in Blake's car. But there were 3 small children in the car, what responsible police officer would fire seven times into a car with 3 children in it? Any of the rounds could have ricocheted and killed one or more of the children.Shooting someone in the back has always been considered a cowardly act and is normally called murder.
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Doesn’t the fact that seven officers responding to the call in the first place tell us something?

Tells me a lot.
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I am not sure it is racism. It is about the violence that is rampant among society. Fights, robberies, gun shed, etc. Cops are scared to death to respond to a call.
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He earned those bullets no matter what color his skin. He wasn't a black man shot. He was a non-cooperative criminal who refused to keep his hands in plain view and proceeded to ignore lawful orders and reached into his vehicle for (who knows what). Police shouldn't have to wait to see if he pulls out a weapon. Shooting was in self-defense. Glad he is gone from the planet. Too bad for those kids though. And, too bad for all the innocent people who have to deal with more BLM BS.
Exactly!!! Well put! I am also glad that he cannot put anyone else in harms way. The only disagreement I have with what you said is "too bad for the kids though." This is probably best for the kids, since he was a cretin anyway and an embarrassment to those kids.

Interesting how the media does not just say a suspect was shot, rather than a BLACK suspect was shot by the police. It is almost as if they are inciting folks to violence so they have a better news story.
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What is pathetic is the lack of gun control in this country.
Thanks to the NRA and it's training, we DO have "gun control" in this country. Gun control is controlled breathing, sight alignment and squeeze don't jerk the trigger.

Considering the very few police shootings in this country, it's amazing that they have enough control to rarely EVER hit an innocent bystander. Can't say that for the perps.
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What is pathetic is the lack of gun control in this country.
My guns are always under control. What is pathetic is the lack of criminal control in this country..
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My guns are always under control. What is pathetic is the lack of criminal control in this country..
Everyone we know who owns guns has them safely locked away.

I do not think that assault weapons should be legal.
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