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davem4616 06-23-2020 02:55 PM

doubtful that we'll see any angry mobs going after the statues in TV ...but you might get the odd never-do-well jerk with a spray can and nothing better to do than sneak around late at night to do some painting....

Stu from NYC 06-23-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1790398)
I suggest that a black cowgirl would do the trick.

Does she have to be on a black horse?

What about a transgender black cowgirl?

Scorpyo 06-23-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1790438)
Does she have to be on a black horse?

What about a transgender black cowgirl?

Actually should be a non-binary or genderless cow-something or other riding a zebra.

EdFNJ 06-23-2020 03:11 PM

Rainy days ...... rainy days ..... always brings out the best of TOTV.

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1789915)
Theres no reasons for the statues being torn down. Its being done by uncivilized animals who are just looking to cause chaos and destruction. Statues totally un related to this excuse for a cause have been targeted. Just think, theyve burned down and looted stores in the own neighborhood and last night tried to overtake the White House. Theyre just savages who were raised without learning respect. Blame the parents


OrangeBlossomBaby 06-23-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LynnWM158 (Post 1790410)
Not everyone born and bred in the south has ancestors who were members of the confederacy.....none of my ancestors were slave owners or members of the confederacy. Sounds like you might have a bit of prejudice

You're missing the point. One of the criteria of being a member of the confederacy is - you have to have been a resident of one of the confederate states, or actively serving the confederacy at the time the confederacy existed. Does that mean everyone living there was a confederate? Nope. But it means if you were NOT living in the confederacy, and your ancestors were not actively serving the confederacy, then you and your family cannot possibly have been a confederate.

Schwartz's family was not from the south, and his family weren't even in the USA at the time of the Confederacy his father's side of the family was still in Hungary - and therefore weren't capable of being members of the confederacy.

Not prejudice. Mathematical deduction: "If you want B to be true, then A must also be true. If A is not true, then B cannot be true."

ColdNoMore 06-23-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1790405)
I am pretty sure that European settlers brought smallpox and other diseases to the colonies, which, I believe, killed off enormous numbers of eastern Native Americans. Our history undercounts the depopulation. Much later in the west, the US Army gave infected blankets (smallpox?) out to the western tribes on purpose, like those chemical weapons banned by the Geneva Convention. But, of course I am no way suggesting that Native Americans deserve their Reservation land or any future considerations or reparations. That would require a less flat Federal tax and national empathy. Will not happen.

Not for a while...that's for sure.

But given all of the studies of the younger generations being less racist/bigoted/xenophobic/misogynistic/Etc., I still hold hope (even if it's after I'm gone)...that things will get better.

That's of course, after all of those who admire, follow and sympathize with lowlife scumbags like Richard Spencer....become a negligible minority.
:thumbup:

blaf@laffertyandson.com 06-23-2020 03:31 PM

Hunting season closed for 2 weeks .
 
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Originally Posted by Kwenner (Post 1790000)
This is not about white supremacy or slave owners , this is about destroying America and anarchy. George Floyd was their excuse to kick off their main event, they have been chipping away at AMERICA , morales and religion for years.

I think we should tell our police officers to not shoot anyone for 2 weeks . Ask them to spend more time at the doughnut shop .

Stu from NYC 06-23-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1790446)
Actually should be a non-binary or genderless cow-something or other riding a zebra.

Hmm is that a zebra with black stripes or white ones? Never could figure that one out.

Byte1 06-23-2020 03:50 PM

Hmm, a long horn steer? Perhaps it will have to go because a Black Angus might feel slighted.

fdpaq0580 06-23-2020 04:04 PM

Thank you!
 
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1790411)
Good post, except .....Segregation is alive, well, and still flourishing in the tribal, ghetto, and difficult to escape areas in MOST US cities, big and small. Don't believe small? Go live in Arcadia, Fl. for 1 month and do some research.

Thank you for making the point about segregation. You are correct. My point is that it is no longer the law of the land. The segregation that exists is more related to level of wealth or lack of it, education or lack of it, people of similar cultures living in areas where they feel welcome.
When my family, German and French, emigrated to this country, they lived in "little Germany" or the French area of town. Poor and lacking the ability to speak good English, that is where they settled. Second generation was told to speak without the accent and to get all the education they could so they could get out of the ghetto and have a better life. "Difficult to escape areas", difficult, yes, but not impossible, as some would have you believe. I have lived in good and bad places, I have felt suspicion and discrimination, so I feel, right or wrong, that I have at least a slight understanding of someone experiencing those things might feel.
The train to mutual respect, understanding and truly coming together as a nation united is not a "bullet train". It moves slower than many would like and faster than some can comprehend, but it is moving in the right direction and will continue to do so if the vandals will stop trying to tear up the tracks.
Stay safe. Stay well. Peace!

fdpaq0580 06-23-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1790473)
Hmm is that a zebra with black stripes or white ones? Never could figure that one out.

Watch some nature shows. They will tell you.

Sorry, that is about as snarky as I can get.
Stay safe. Stay well. Peace!

jimjamuser 06-23-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1790438)
Does she have to be on a black horse?

What about a transgender black cowgirl?

My image of the graph of attractiveness just went south. Thanks, I guess?

jimjamuser 06-23-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1790484)
Thank you for making the point about segregation. You are correct. My point is that it is no longer the law of the land. The segregation that exists is more related to level of wealth or lack of it, education or lack of it, people of similar cultures living in areas where they feel welcome.
When my family, German and French, emigrated to this country, they lived in "little Germany" or the French area of town. Poor and lacking the ability to speak good English, that is where they settled. Second generation was told to speak without the accent and to get all the education they could so they could get out of the ghetto and have a better life. "Difficult to escape areas", difficult, yes, but not impossible, as some would have you believe. I have lived in good and bad places, I have felt suspicion and discrimination, so I feel, right or wrong, that I have at least a slight understanding of someone experiencing those things might feel.
The train to mutual respect, understanding and truly coming together as a nation united is not a "bullet train". It moves slower than many would like and faster than some can comprehend, but it is moving in the right direction and will continue to do so if the vandals will stop trying to tear up the tracks.
Stay safe. Stay well. Peace!

I like the zebra image. Black and white zebras matter!
To Mr 0580.....good post. Good historic play-by-play about the ethnic blending. Yes, nothing to be gained by vandalizing. It sets all good causes back.

Scorpyo 06-23-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1790473)
Hmm is that a zebra with black stripes or white ones? Never could figure that one out.

Silly question. This is 2020 not 1818. Majority of black of course.

Velvet 06-23-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1790457)
You're missing the point. One of the criteria of being a member of the confederacy is - you have to have been a resident of one of the confederate states, or actively serving the confederacy at the time the confederacy existed. Does that mean everyone living there was a confederate? Nope. But it means if you were NOT living in the confederacy, and your ancestors were not actively serving the confederacy, then you and your family cannot possibly have been a confederate.

Schwartz's family was not from the south, and his family weren't even in the USA at the time of the Confederacy his father's side of the family was still in Hungary - and therefore weren't capable of being members of the confederacy.

Not prejudice. Mathematical deduction: "If you want B to be true, then A must also be true. If A is not true, then B cannot be true."

Thank you for sharing a bit more history of our Villages founder. But please don’t be disappointed if facts are bypassed for convenient fantasy though.


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