[Richpetty42]

I see it the same way, we make drugs illegal but criminals find a way to get them. So banning guns from everyone will only lead the criminals & psychopaths to get them illegally and the people in our country who are law abiding defenseless if they fall victim to a criminal who may be attacking them, breaking into their homes etc.
Now that most criminals face no consequences due to their crimes because of DAs and AGs who won’t prosecute them it may start looking like the wild west because the citizens won’t take crime in such a lax way when it comes to their doorstep, they will find a way to protect themselves and their property and not let the bad guys win a war on crime.
And guns are not the problem, if you put a gun on your table and walk away it will just sit there and nothing happens until you put it in your hands and pull the trigger, it’s the person holding it and their intentions on using it in a criminal act.. that’s the problem.

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Criminals and psychos could care less about gun bans of any type and usually obtain their weapons through some form of illegal means. They are almost always the ones who pull triggers and murder people. All gun bans do is deprive law-abiding citizens of their right to protect themselves from vicious criminals. Having a gun of some kind for defense is essential these days in many areas of the country, both rural and urban, as murderous criminals are rarely incarcerated but released to commit more crimes including murdering folks,

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

Yep - interesting - 'til I git to the Disclaimer! LOL

Now I'm gonna go look up HIPAA and gun permit applications! Thanks for your responses.

They are lawyers. I remember as a law library reference worker I would just be allowed to take the person to an area of the library and kind of point at a work or works for whatever they were interested in at that time.

[Taltarzac725]

No one is suggesting banning of all guns. That is a straw man argument.

Originally Posted by Richpetty42

I see it the same way, we make drugs illegal but criminals find a way to get them. So banning guns from everyone will only lead the criminals & psychopaths to get them illegally and the people in our country who are law abiding defenseless if they fall victim to a criminal who may be attacking them, breaking into their homes etc.
Now that most criminals face no consequences due to their crimes because of DAs and AGs who won’t prosecute them it may start looking like the wild west because the citizens won’t take crime in such a lax way when it comes to their doorstep, they will find a way to protect themselves and their property and not let the bad guys win a war on crime.

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by Whitley

You have been on tik tok I see.

I have enough sense not to follow a Chinese trash app that steals your private information. Don't assume anything especially that I don't have enough intelligence or logic to speak for myself. But on the other hand you have just proven that you must follow tiktok trash..

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

How about watching the news. Prohibit Assault Weapons | Everytown | Everytown

You do realize the site you linked is to a Bloomberg funded anti-gun group, right? Calling it news is quite the stretch.

[Blackbird45]

Originally Posted by cjrjck

And because of the 1st Amendment, you have the right to proclaim your beliefs. And because of the 2nd Amendment, your well meaning ideas are just that, well meaning ideas. Can you imagine placing similar requirements on a person before they are allowed to express their views? You might say you can't equate the two (right to free speech and the right to bear arms) and I would say the Supreme Court has said no right shall be abridged. Placing such restrictions on gun ownership would do just that. Now, you do have a recourse. Use your poetic skills to stir up enough support to actually change the 2nd Amendment. It can be done.

The first amendment: are you not aware what been going on here in Fl. Banning certain books, what Disney can say and not say. I'm just saying there are many people out there who have firearms and don't have a clue how to handle them.

[mikeycereal]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

How about watching the news. Prohibit Assault Weapons | Everytown | Everytown

Assault weapons are generally high-powered semiautomatic firearms where each round has up to four times the muzzle velocity of a handgun round. This means that each round from an assault weapon inflicts greater damage to the human body than a round from a typical handgun. Assault weapons are generally designed to fire rounds at a greater rate than other firearms, and when combined with high-capacity magazines, they enable a shooter to fire more rounds over a short period.

Thanks for providing this for those who "claim" ignorance. Nobody "needs" these types of weapons. And it's not because they "look scary." Unfortunately this is just a little friendly chat site where others like us can simply choose to argue the point back and forth and the info should be pounded into the lawmakers because they either don't seem to get it or choose to ignore it.

I'm all for tougher background checks. Maybe having family members come along to ok the purchase and verify that their son/sibling/husband isn't some stockpiling psycho with revenge as a motive. Yes it's come to that point where mommy and daddy need to sign off already. And yeah it's been like that where a few bad apples make it a hassle for everyone, I get it but that's where we've been.

[rpalumberi]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Criminals and psychos could care less about gun bans of any type and usually obtain their weapons through some form of illegal means. They are almost always the ones who pull triggers and murder people. All gun bans do is deprive law-abiding citizens of their right to protect themselves from vicious criminals. Having a gun of some kind for defense is essential these days in many areas of the country, both rural and urban, as murderous criminals are rarely incarcerated but released to commit more crimes including murdering folks,

agree 100%, not sure why so many otherwise level headed people don't see this - the left wants to defund the police while depriving law-abiding citizens of their 2nd amendment right to protect themselves - there's a reason why its the 2nd amendment, right behind #1 freedom of speech (also under attack under the guise of misinformation, Russian or otherwise) - thank you for speaking out

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by rpalumberi

agree 100%, not sure why so many otherwise level headed people don't see this - the left wants to defund the police while depriving law-abiding citizens of their 2nd amendment right to protect themselves - there's a reason why its the 2nd amendment, right behind #1 freedom of speech (also under attack under the guise of misinformation, Russian or otherwise) - thank you for speaking out

The 2nd Amendment is about a well regulated militia and not the right of private citizens to have weapons designed for warfare.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

How about watching the news. Prohibit Assault Weapons | Everytown | Everytown

In 2021, 447 homicides reported using a rifle vs 6,012 using a handgun. You want to outlaw certain rifles based on their muzzle velocity? Does a higher muzzle velocity make someone more dead? Rifles have higher muzzle velocities because (this really should not come as a shock) they are used to fire at targets further away. In addition, there are many rifles chambered with ammo that have greater muzzle velocity (i can not believe it has come to this. Ban requests based on muzzle velocity)than an AR15.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

How about watching the news. Prohibit Assault Weapons | Everytown | Everytown

Everytown for Gun Safety is the news now? That is like me saying "How About You Watch The News" and link NRA videos. I'm kind of sure your heart is in the right place, but you may not be knowledgeable enough on the topic.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

The first amendment: are you not aware what been going on here in Fl. Banning certain books, what Disney can say and not say. I'm just saying there are many people out there who have firearms and don't have a clue how to handle them.

Banning books is just terrible. I remember how angry I was when I turned 12 and could not buy Playboy. Stop Book Banning.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

How about watching the news. Prohibit Assault Weapons | Everytown | Everytown

The four times as powerful as a hand gun round is true. True of ALL rifle rounds, not just those from the so-called assault weapons. The 5.56 round used in the AR15 is on the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to wound cavity creation. In many states the .223/5.56 is not legal to use on deer size game due to its relatively low power. The AK rifle round, 7.62 X 39 is comparable to the venerable old 30-30 lever action rifle which is not considered a "high power" round.
Your typical hunting calibers, 308 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, etc., create devastating wounds. The .223/5.56 rounds in the hunting arena are considered varmint rounds for use on coyote, prairie dogs and other small varmints.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

The first amendment: are you not aware what been going on here in Fl. Banning certain books, what Disney can say and not say. I'm just saying there are many people out there who have firearms and don't have a clue how to handle them.

There are no book bans in Florida. The law prohibits books containing certain information the responsible parents consider inappropriate for children from being in libraries meant for children. Do you think it is acceptable to allow Playboy or Hustler magazines to be in a library for kids? Is their absence from children's libraries not book banning?

[MrFlorida]

Since you like to quote the 2nd amendment of our constitution, perhaps you should read it completely . It also states that " The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" Keep meaning to possess. And bear meaning to carry. This was just up held by the Supreme Court.