Originally Posted by Eg_cruz (Post 2216661)

The problem with your statement is these men is, they have not completed the transformation from man to women they still have their original male reproductive organs.
So if a man dresses as a women and says he is a women, I am sorry it doesn’t make you one.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2216678)

This has nothing to do with "dressing as a woman." That would be a transvestite.

And the problem is that some people want someone to discriminate against because their fragile egos can't handle the fact that they might actually be somewhat less of a human than the rest of the human race.

Currently, it's transgenders. The cycle will turn back to blacks in a month or two, and then it's time again for the Muslims, and then it'll be the Jews again.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2216678)

This has nothing to do with "dressing as a woman." That would be a transvestite.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2216703)

And that is exactly what many trans women are doing... No hormones, no surgery. Just claiming to be women...

Many have become parodies of women. Dylan Mulvaney (of Bud Light fame) is a perfect example...

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2216678)

This has nothing to do with "dressing as a woman." That would be a transvestite.

And the problem is that some people want someone to discriminate against because their fragile egos can't handle the fact that they might actually be somewhat less of a human than the rest of the human race.

Currently, it's transgenders. The cycle will turn back to blacks in a month or two, and then it's time again for the Muslims, and then it'll be the Jews again.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2216652)

I agree with the last part, and I don't care about sports anyway. But I don't think a "no transgenders allowed" is the right tack to take on this. I don't know what is the right tack, the idea of mixed teams seems more fair to me. And sure - even a transgender classification would be fine. If it's a mixed team, they'd have the same shot as any cis-gender man or woman at making the team.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2216678)

This has nothing to do with "dressing as a woman." That would be a transvestite.

And the problem is that some people want someone to discriminate against because their fragile egos can't handle the fact that they might actually be somewhat less of a human than the rest of the human race.

Currently, it's transgenders. The cycle will turn back to blacks in a month or two, and then it's time again for the Muslims, and then it'll be the Jews again.

Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2216462)

It has been announced that transgender women are banned from running in the 2024 Olympics against women. Some transgender comments about denying them the opportunity to participate. They are not being denied the opportunity. They just have to compete against people of their biological sex. Kind of like letting a heavyweight average boxer compete against a lightweight boxer. XY against XY, not XY against XX. Sports events are looking for the best, not the best imposter. If an XX wants to compete against an XY, let it happen, If a lightweight wants to compete against a heavyweight, let it happen. Go up to your best not down to your best.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2216525)

I think it is vile to target transgender people whose lives must be difficult enough without being used as pawns in political ploys.

Attacks on transgenders — both verbal and physical attacks — are part of a movement to dehumanize others — and the number of people who are susceptible to joining in the hatred is appalling.

And don’t get me started on the incongruity of using “holiness” as an attempt to veil hatred and to obsess about what is between someone else’s legs. If an adult decides to do something totally legal, why should anyone else care.

BUT, that being said, I agree that transgender women should not be competing against female athletes who were born female. This is not just about the Olympics, it is about all levels of sports, from informal competitions to the awarding of scholarships. Height and strength can make all the difference in athletic competition……

Let’s be fair.

Boomer the Moderate (an endangered species)

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2216550)

I also feel that transgender males/females shouldn't be competing for teams of the gender that doesn't match their biology. But if they compete in teams that DOES match their biology, then you'll have transgender women - who were born biologically male - competing against men. Tall women with no facial hair, no *****, wearing bras, competing with men. Because they were born with a ***** even though they no longer have one. That makes zero sense.

I'd rather see all sports open up to all genders. No more male teams and female teams. People can be on the teams selected on the merits of their abilities rather than what reproductive organs they were born with, or currently have. Yes, men are typically taller than women. But the average "random tall guy" still can't play basketball as well as the "tall chick with the full 4-year basketball scholarship at UConn."

And many of those college basketball men can't hold a candle to some of the Women Huskies.

So pick your teams with men, women, transgender, cisgender, nonbinary, whatever. If they can do the job, then they're on the team.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2216500)

If they were women, I'd agree.

Sometimes, reality stomps on in and crushes our most cherished fantasies.