Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1784705)

As a liberal, white woman, professional (Attorney and Surgeon), married parent of 2 sons and foster parent of 6 black children, I am aghast at some of the hateful or ignorant opinions/solutions I read on this thread. My sons were teens when we began fostering (northern state) and we were blessed by their lives. The local police, however, were after these kids from the day we invited them into our homes. (They were not the only black kids in our community)- Questioning them on where they were going, where they were coming from, how did they get those shoes, why are they walking into this person's drive way, why are they standing out in from of the local theater (along with my bio sons), why are you walking with this (white) girl, frisking their pockets? My hubby and I spend a lot of time at the police station trying to stop this behavior. Everyone should foster a black child so see what it's like and what these kids are up against. Thankfully our neighbors treated the kids with respect. It was the greatest education of my life time and we're still close to each of the kids we fostered. An yes, we put them through college....yes, we gave them free stuff. I'm so disappointed in my fellow whites who think they know the failing of everyone but themselves.

Originally Posted by SouthJerseyGirl (Post 1784710)

So let’s shut down Planned Parenthood. That certainly helps the situation - not.

Originally Posted by crash (Post 1784424)

Not just justice for this crime but all that have gone before without justice.

They really want something that I am afraid is impossible to give them an end to systemic racism in this country.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1784226)

We don't NEED any more gov. especially more gov control. Sorry, but I do not NEED someone telling me where or where I cannot live, or who my neighbors must be. I see nothing wrong with gated communities, if one wishes to live in them.
"Racial Justice?" Is that different than any other JUSTICE? Why does Justice have to be segregated to race, gender, religion or sexual preference? Why can't one law fit all? Do some have special needs? I am an adult and do not need MORE gov control. The reason the economy did well in the last couple years was because of LESS gov control; less regulations.
The Constitution is color blind and gender blind, therefore if we are TRULY living and moderated by it, then there is NO racial justice, just plain old JUSTICE for all American citizens.

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1784292)

Originally Posted by Warren (Post 1784496)

The problem goes deeper than just two parents. It is basic education. Say what you want, but by-in-large, the largest majority of the sensationalized incidences involved persons of low education and low moral values. Yes, there are educated persons who are stopped because of the color of their skin but , it is highly unlikely the situation gets escalated to the point someone is hurt or killed. There are programs out there designed to work with our public education systems to fix this situation. The one I happen to be familiar with is "An Achievable Dream". I have witnessed it first hand, and it works. Children are taken from first grade through twelfth grade and given extra help to see that they succeed and graduate from high school and stay out of trouble. If they succeed they are guaranteed a free college education. Not only do they receive extra help with their studies, before and after school day; they receive education on anger management, proper manors, proper english communication, money management ...... just to name a few. On the weekends they are introduced to museums and other cultural events. These are the skills and experiences that your parents and mine taught us at home. These are the skills they are not receiving. These are the skills that help them function in society and help them make good decisions throughout life and succeed to become productive / contributing citizens.

The program is available for ALL races. The less likely an identified child is to succeed in life the more likely he or she is to become a candidate for the program. It cost the child and his family nothing. The cost is raised in the community through local business sponsorship and charitable contributions and is funneled into the school system to supplement the the teachers salaries and activities. It is a good investment. It breaks the cycle of illiteracy and teaches moral decency so we can live in peace and harmony with our neighbors. IT WORKS ! Check it out.

Originally Posted by Warren (Post 1784496)

The problem goes deeper than just two parents. It is basic education. Say what you want, but by-in-large, the largest majority of the sensationalized incidences involved persons of low education and low moral values. Yes, there are educated persons who are stopped because of the color of their skin but , it is highly unlikely the situation gets escalated to the point someone is hurt or killed. There are programs out there designed to work with our public education systems to fix this situation. The one I happen to be familiar with is "An Achievable Dream". I have witnessed it first hand, and it works. Children are taken from first grade through twelfth grade and given extra help to see that they succeed and graduate from high school and stay out of trouble. If they succeed they are guaranteed a free college education. Not only do they receive extra help with their studies, before and after school day; they receive education on anger management, proper manors, proper english communication, money management ...... just to name a few. On the weekends they are introduced to museums and other cultural events. These are the skills and experiences that your parents and mine taught us at home. These are the skills they are not receiving. These are the skills that help them function in society and help them make good decisions throughout life and succeed to become productive / contributing citizens.

The program is available for ALL races. The less likely an identified child is to succeed in life the more likely he or she is to become a candidate for the program. It cost the child and his family nothing. The cost is raised in the community through local business sponsorship and charitable contributions and is funneled into the school system to supplement the the teachers salaries and activities. It is a good investment. It breaks the cycle of illiteracy and teaches moral decency so we can live in peace and harmony with our neighbors. IT WORKS ! Check it out.

Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1784555)

What a great list of ideas and suggestion and remarkable inputs to this overwhelming condition in the US and in a number of cases in the world. It's impressive to see some real concern and ideas to start to attack these terrible conditions. It would be interesting if all of the comments and inputs would be reviewed and categorized? Whether you agree or disagree with some of the ideas or comments you have to be proud to live in a community which is not afraid to express their views and a mechanism (TOTV) which is available to provide them to others for review and consideration! I know I am!! :ho:

Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1784560)

REMARKABLY US fresh water supplies now have alarmingly-elevated levels of female hormones from massive birth control pills being excreted in urine. It is suspected to be causing low testosterone levels in males. Are you aware that birth control hormones are a Class One carcinogen? There have been tens of millions of abortion infanticides and more black babies are killed than any other segment of our population.

If you want to see real change look at the man in the mirror & ask him to change his ways.

Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1784705)

As a liberal, white woman, professional (Attorney and Surgeon), married parent of 2 sons and foster parent of 6 black children, I am aghast at some of the hateful or ignorant opinions/solutions I read on this thread. My sons were teens when we began fostering (northern state) and we were blessed by their lives. The local police, however, were after these kids from the day we invited them into our homes. (They were not the only black kids in our community)- Questioning them on where they were going, where they were coming from, how did they get those shoes, why are they walking into this person's drive way, why are they standing out in from of the local theater (along with my bio sons), why are you walking with this (white) girl, frisking their pockets? My hubby and I spend a lot of time at the police station trying to stop this behavior. Everyone should foster a black child so see what it's like and what these kids are up against. Thankfully our neighbors treated the kids with respect. It was the greatest education of my life time and we're still close to each of the kids we fostered. An yes, we put them through college....yes, we gave them free stuff. I'm so disappointed in my fellow whites who think they know the failing of everyone but themselves.

Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1784349)

Then we should outlaw divorce and incarcerate adulterers who have children, right?

Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1784541)

Did you ever think that MEN are the source of this problem instead men are blaming single Moms?

Which parent is the “single parent” who continues to struggle with parenting and which one is absent?

Very few females are directly involved in these law enforcement problems on either side.

Originally Posted by HelenLCSW (Post 1783917)

Actually, Governor Cuomo has come up with a very detailed plan and requiring every mayor to have implemented it by April of next year or they will not receive state financial aid. The plan includes most of the things we have just been talking about. There is no chance, however, that our Florida governor will follow suit🙁

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1784809)

Last time I checked it requires two to tango. Unless all those fatherless children were the product of rape the mother has just as much blame as the man.

I probably shouldn't use the word "man" for these sperm donors but if the baby daddies were given the choice of pay for your offspring or be neutered, there might be a few less fatherless children and fewer living in poverty.

My wife volunteered at a church that had a food pantry and a clothes closet to aid poor people. There was a woman who came there regularly, she had 7 children and was pregnant with the 8th. All the children had a different father. The majority of women receiving aid were never married but had multiple children by multiple fathers. Birth control is either free or nearly free for low income women. They made the choice of having sex without birth control.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1784732)

Gated Communities would NOT be needed if the US spent more tax money to upgrade society and quality of life. Same goes for Justice-if there REALLY were EQUAL justice (there is NOT) then we would NOT even be talking about protests.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1785219)

Single mothers may be an instrumental cause, but most folks are taught by society the difference between right and wrong. I guarantee that most repeat offenders know their Miranda Rights by heart. Most individuals have a mind of their own and know the difference between right and wrong and make their own decisions on which actions they will make and what the results of those actions might be. Sorry, but the excuse that one did not have two parents to guide them and tell them right and wrong, is a cop out and not a defense for their illegal actions.

Originally Posted by sloanst (Post 1784752)

If I were you I would read articles, books and essays written by Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams, Shelby Steele and Bob Woodson to start. These African Americans have studied this problem at length, yet their suggestions are ignored in favor of other solutions that to date have not worked.

Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1784705)

As a liberal, white woman, professional (Attorney and Surgeon), married parent of 2 sons and foster parent of 6 black children, I am aghast at some of the hateful or ignorant opinions/solutions I read on this thread. My sons were teens when we began fostering (northern state) and we were blessed by their lives. The local police, however, were after these kids from the day we invited them into our homes. (They were not the only black kids in our community)- Questioning them on where they were going, where they were coming from, how did they get those shoes, why are they walking into this person's drive way, why are they standing out in from of the local theater (along with my bio sons), why are you walking with this (white) girl, frisking their pockets? My hubby and I spend a lot of time at the police station trying to stop this behavior. Everyone should foster a black child so see what it's like and what these kids are up against. Thankfully our neighbors treated the kids with respect. It was the greatest education of my life time and we're still close to each of the kids we fostered. An yes, we put them through college....yes, we gave them free stuff. I'm so disappointed in my fellow whites who think they know the failing of everyone but themselves.

Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1785229)

There are three things that bring people out of poverty, Education, Accountability, and Discipline. All are now lacking in society.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1785225)

So very true, get rid of Sharpton who helps nobody but himself and look up to these men.

Trillions of dollars wasted on war on poverty and we keep going with wasteful programs

Originally Posted by D.C.Villager (Post 1784684)

Poverty can be avoided, by all skin colors, if you follow only 3 steps when you are young. Follow ALL of them and you have a 98% chance of avoiding poverty.

What are the steps? Finish high school, work full time, and ‘marriage before carriage’ (wait til you are 21, and marry, before having kids).

2 percent of persons in families that followed all three norms are poor, whereas 76 percent of persons in families that followed none were poor

Three Simple Rules Poor Teens Should Follow to Join the Middle Class

Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1785273)

Sharpton represents no one except himself. He is not elected. No one appointed him.

Many blacks also wish some powerful, brave person in the media would stop using Sharpton’s divisive rhetoric for its shock value. It only benefits them. He’s like addictive click-bait to media moguls.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1785291)

Your right but when you see him show up all the time people unfortunately think he is a leader. Wish he would be led to the nearest prison for tax evasion.

Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1785261)

I agree those elements are critical from the individual but there are more complicated factors that extend beyond. What about love, faith, health, security, community fellowship, mentors/role models, individual intellectual, emotional and physical abilities...just to name a few. It would be a lot more difficult to get out of poverty if any of those is significantly lacking.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1783691)

Just take that out of the equation. It is a disservice to single parents, and a disservice to kids of malfunctioning two-parent households.

Originally Posted by HelenLCSW (Post 1783917)

Actually, Governor Cuomo has come up with a very detailed plan and requiring every mayor to have implemented it by April of next year or they will not receive state financial aid. The plan includes most of the things we have just been talking about. There is no chance, however, that our Florida governor will follow suit🙁

Originally Posted by BS Beef (Post 1783705)

I’m not trying to stir the pot but it’s just a statistical fact. Of course there are kids that thrive in single parent households and kids that fail miserably in 2-parent families. But statistically 2-parent households have a big advantage.

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1784443)

National repentance and obedience to the 10 Commandments. But, I don't see that as actually happening. Sin (violence, murders, rapes, abortions, thefts, corruption, lying, etc) is now the American way. It will take God's direct intervention to stop this. Feel free to slam me. It won't change a thing. This country will be taken over and destroyed in less than a dozen years based on biblical warnings and the current state of the world. If you can't see the decay in all human institutions and the complete lack of fear of God, you simply are not paying attention at all. Time is truly running short.

Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1784317)

What can you expect from people who have never had any type of social or economical relationship with a person of color? Having been a HS Principal and Asst. Supt of Schools (local and county wide), there is discipline in schools. Expect more of the same unless we, yes, all of us, change.

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1783696)

If you have been reading this forum, and paying attention to the news of the day, then you know what the Big Con is.

This was bad when I recall being involved...now it's impossible, and promises to simply get worse. Each side of the issue have promised violence in the streets in November. It has been galvanized and the world watches as we wait for somebody, anybody to step up and at least try.

Seeing posts today with folks not even knowing about the various groups involved in the stress. And nobody is even trying.

When you hear foreign governments who are watching express sadness for what has been wrought (and by the way, was and is the ultimate goal of some, both inside and outside our borders, and they are not even shy about saying it now and listen to their words about the USA, you get the dRk picture.

We had cracks in our society. They are now huge, and again....the only words are promises of more grief for the future and again, nobody even try's to heal.