[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I am anti- to being pushed/forced into accepting a change in a product that is not an equal or better replacement to a necessity just to please a sector of what I consider to be "elitist thinkers" for lack of a better descriptor.

So, before Waste Management started promoting their Waste-to-Energy program, you protested against recycling? I mean - you have to buy two different types of bags and sort all your trash before it gets to the curb, taking up two spots instead of one all week long even if you only had one full bag's worth of stuff to throw away that week.

Did you protest that? No? Why not? It was not an equal or better replacement to a necessity just to please a sector of what you consider to be "elitist thinkers."

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So, before Waste Management started promoting their Waste-to-Energy program, you protested against recycling? I mean - you have to buy two different types of bags and sort all your trash before it gets to the curb, taking up two spots instead of one all week long even if you only had one full bag's worth of stuff to throw away that week.

Did you protest that? No? Why not? It was not an equal or better replacement to a necessity just to please a sector of what you consider to be "elitist thinkers."

So you are equating taking out the trash to having to buy a very expensive electric vehicle with very many limitations that make it unsuitable for all drivers at this time?

[positiveinlife]

If you buy an EV to save the environment think again. read the articles on the web from unbiased reports about the mining of lithium. Millions of gallons of water are used to drive lithium and other heavy metals to the surface. The result is gross contamination of the ground and nearby water . Also Ev battery packs must have ventilation to dissipate heat. thus they are not water tight.

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Personally, I vote for horse-drawn carriages. They will be much more practical during the upcoming Dark Ages v2.0

Sorry, just trying to fit in...

I tried to bite my tongue but couldn't.

I read numerous news articles to find out what was going on. It boils down to one Tesla that caught fire, and a fire department struggled to put it out. There is NO forensic evidence yet as to WHY the battery caught fire. There are only comments by one fire department chief that has NO experience or training on EV batteries and their fires. He did say that there are a lot of Teslas out there and that COULD be a big problem based on nothing.

I will wait for the analysis of what happened and why, but enjoy yourselves it seems any time anything happens that involves an EV most here throw a celebration! Hence my Dark Ages V2.0 refernce.

Not sure where you got your 1 Tesla idea. As of 2 days ago, in Collier county alone there were 10.

To put out these very hot fires can take thousands of gallons of water to put out. Tesla’s emergency response guide says between 3,000 to 8,000 gallons of water are necessary to extinguish an EV fire. For gas-powered vehicles, it takes on average around 1,000 gallons of water to put out a fire.

There have been many instances when after a few days the EV will catch on fire a second time. “It takes special training and understanding of EVs to ensure these fires are put out quickly and safely,” Patronis said.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So, before Waste Management started promoting their Waste-to-Energy program, you protested against recycling? I mean - you have to buy two different types of bags and sort all your trash before it gets to the curb, taking up two spots instead of one all week long even if you only had one full bag's worth of stuff to throw away that week.

Did you protest that? No? Why not? It was not an equal or better replacement to a necessity just to please a sector of what you consider to be "elitist thinkers."

Hmmm, what does recycling have to do with liking or not liking EVs? I have no idea as to the reasoning of changing the recycling method of trash collecting for plain old collecting all trash and burning it, so I cannot speculate on whether or not "elitist thinking" was involved. I am sure that you have all the answers to that and any other question one might have?
I'm not sure if the charge for removing my trash has gone up beyond my means, so I can't tell if only certain folks can afford trash removal.

[tuccillo]

No. EV battery packs, by and large, are liquid cooled, not ventilated. Early Chevy Bolts were an example of the exception and they were pretty much a failure. They are not, however, water tight and shorts may lead to bad outcomes. Just like gas cars, you should keep them out of harm's way otherwise they will wind being totaled.

Originally Posted by positiveinlife

If you buy an EV to save the environment think again. read the articles on the web from unbiased reports about the mining of lithium. Millions of gallons of water are used to drive lithium and other heavy metals to the surface. The result is gross contamination of the ground and nearby water . Also Ev battery packs must have ventilation to dissipate heat. thus they are not water tight.