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JMintzer 08-05-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1981302)
A lot of viruses "come back" like chicken pox/shingles. Many virus strains sequester in your body for many years and screw up your immune system like Guillan-Barre and Epstein-Barr syndromes, fibromyalgia, Lyme Disease (which they should hurry up and find a cure/prevention for because it has destroyed so many lives of people I know).

Chicken pox lives in your nerves... It returns as Shingles...

Or, were you using chicken pox as and example of that?

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-05-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1984067)
According to your SNOPES:
"$1.95 billion allocated to Pfizer was for large-scale manufacturing and nationwide distribution."
"Technically, the work conducted by Pfizer and its partner, German drugmaker BioNTech, is an expansion of OWS and was operating under an agreement to meet the goal of OWS to deliver 300 million doses of a vaccine in 2021. As part of the agreement, the U.S. government would receive 100 million doses after the successful manufacturing of the vaccine and its approval by the FDA."

Exactly. That was to PURCHASE PRODUCT.

It was not to fund research.

drducat 08-05-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1984338)
Exactly. That was to PURCHASE PRODUCT.

It was not to fund research.

The research was done before and halted over and over again.....so maybe...:pepper2:

John41 08-05-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1984338)
Exactly. That was to PURCHASE PRODUCT.

It was not to fund research.

Here’s how business works because you seem not to know.

————————OWS——
Research………..no
Production ……..yes
Distribution………yes
Sales…………………yes

I gave you an article from NPR and Newsweek that stated the above. None are so blind as those who would not see.

coffeebean 08-05-2021 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1984088)
"far right source" = bad?
far left source = good?

Far anything = very bad

coffeebean 08-05-2021 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1984304)
Young children cannot be vaccinated...

Very true but their parents can. Why don't these people who are refusing the vaccine do the right thing for their children?

MDLNB 08-06-2021 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1984398)
Very true but their parents can. Why don't these people who are refusing the vaccine do the right thing for their children?


Who says they aren't? Do you have information that parents of school age children are NOT getting vaccinated?

coffeebean 08-06-2021 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1984463)
Who says they aren't? Do you have information that parents of school age children are NOT getting vaccinated?

I was referring to those folks who are anti-vaxxers that have children; those folks who refuse the vaccine because of fear that have children; those folks who are vaccine hesitant that have children; those folks who refuse the vaccine and and not are protecting others children. I know they are out there and so do you. It is the younger folks refusing the vaccine.....you know the folks with kids.

Swoop 08-06-2021 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1984587)
I was referring to those folks who are anti-vaxxers that have children; those folks who refuse the vaccine because of fear that have children; those folks who are vaccine hesitant that have children; those folks who refuse the vaccine and and not are protecting others children. I know they are out there and so do you. It is the younger folks refusing the vaccine.....you know the folks with kids.

You love bringing up “the children”. But do you have any idea how infinitesimal the impact of Covid has been on “the children”?
Since the start of Covid, just over 400 children 0-18 have died from Covid. In that same timeframe, more than 70,000 children 0-18 have died from other causes…

GrumpyOldMan 08-06-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1984611)
You love bringing up “the children”. But do you have any idea how infinitesimal the impact of Covid has been on “the children”?
Since the start of Covid, just over 400 children 0-18 have died from Covid. In that same timeframe, more than 70,000 children 0-18 have died from other causes…

The operative words (and I am sure you are aware since you included it) are "has been". DELTA seems to find children much tastier.

Swoop 08-06-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1984689)
The operative words (and I am sure you are aware since you included it) are "has been". DELTA seems to find children much tastier.

The statistics I provided were through the end of July. If you would like to provide statistical data that supports your claim, let’s see it.
Actual deaths, not fear mongering news reports designed to increase viewership or readers…

GrumpyOldMan 08-06-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1984699)
The statistics I provided were through the end of July. If you would like to provide statistical data that supports your claim, let’s see it.
Actual deaths, not fear mongering news reports designed to increase viewership or readers…

So, a whole week or two since DELTA surge began. Okay.

I assume you understand exponential growth?

Swoop 08-06-2021 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1984717)
So, a whole week or two since DELTA surge began. Okay.

I assume you understand exponential growth?

Delta has been the predominant strain of Covid in the US for over a month!!

MDLNB 08-06-2021 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1984717)
So, a whole week or two since DELTA surge began. Okay.

I assume you understand exponential growth?


It means over a PERIOD OF TIME. No quite sure a period of time has occurred unless you are talking about hours.

coffeebean 08-06-2021 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1984611)
You love bringing up “the children”. But do you have any idea how infinitesimal the impact of Covid has been on “the children”?
Since the start of Covid, just over 400 children 0-18 have died from Covid. In that same timeframe, more than 70,000 children 0-18 have died from other causes…

Actually, I have brought up children in my discussions a few times and mostly to say that kids mostly are not effected by Covid. If your numbers are correct, 400 is a small number considering the total number of deaths. Children can, however, spread the disease to others very efficiently if they are infected. Who know how many asymptomatic kids are out there? Anyone? Anyone?


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