Very true. And even then we have to be careful saying "the mask protects you". Since so many like to think/speak in absolutes. It does NOT absolutely protect you 100%. It helps.

Also, it is extremely important for the mask to fit properly to seal around the edges. Otherwise, no joy. But, even with a perfect fit, it is not perfect protection, it helps. But, every little bit helps.

I'm no expert but that makes absolutely no sense at all.

No, what we are seeing now is the anti-vaxxer movement not allowing enough people to get vaccinated and stop these variants. Again, I'm no expert but that just seems to make more sense to me. I still blame the anti-vaxxer movement for the mess we are all in.

That is why in the other thread I said the news from the CDC was not as good as we (I) had hoped. There is evidence that the DELTA has a fairly high breakthrough rate. It appears from what I read at CDC that the vaccine is about 80% effective against DELTA. But, DELTA is a lot more contagious than the original, so that 20% not effective can result in a LOT of infections. But, the vaccination does reduce the chances of serious complications and/or having to go to the hospital.

Also, that 80% is based on a very limited sampling of data, and could change as more cases are reported and the CDC has more data to work with.

So, the vaccine is not as good against DELTA as the original, so a lot more cases showing up, but a lot better than nothing.

Also, a lot of people, like me got their vaccination 4 months ago or so, and so the effectiveness is starting to wane.

EDIT: Also, vaccinations are less effective in seniors than younger folks. This appears to be WRONG. A recent study in Israel shows that seniors are as protected as younger people by the vaccines.

So, seniors need to get boosters sooner and be more careful.

Well, I will go a step further and say that the anti-vax'ers are part of a larger group that are anti-COVIDers. There is a large number of people that still say COVID is no worse than the flu. And refuse to wear masks, refuse to socially distance, and refuse to get vaccinated. Why they feel/believe this I can't say.

Got a link to the CDC stating that?
Or is that your "expert" opinion?
Where are you getting your booster?

It makes perfect sense....The vaccinated are contributing to the variants.....He said it along time ago and all his statements are falling true.

Well it wouldn't to someone who's not a expert.
Does anyone ever hear themselves?

I am not and never have claimed to be an expert, I read and post here what I consider to be valid information from what I believe to be credible sources. If I post something in error, and it is pointed out, I am the first to admit it and retract my post and apologize.

I got my vaccination from the VA in Gainesville. I am waiting to hear back from my PCP about when Boosters will be available.

Here is a Lancet article on vaccine effectiveness by age group, It does not support my claim that the vaccination is less effective in seniors: I apologize for that mistake:

Model is adjusted for age group (16–24, 25–34, 35–44, 45–54, 55–64, 65–74, 75–84, and ≥85 years)

I see no reason to even fact-check a poster that claims the government has approved a vaccine that will destroy our immune systems permanently. If that is TRUE, then we are all up the proverbial creek.

I was just wondering where you got your valid information from a credible source that your vaccine effectiveness is "waning" after 4 months.

There is nothing to fact check...it is a letter from one of the top vaccine experts in the world.

Besides this poster (me) has never made the claim about our government.

Did you post a post that said the vaccination would permanently destroy our immune systems? I am NOT saying you said it will, did you post a post saying that someone else, an expert, said it will?

The man has a heavy Dutch accent and is difficult to understand. W hat he's saying is that the virus will do what it takes to survive if a vaccine is suddenly introduced which means it will mutate into a new variant which can be even more deadly than the original COVID-19. I think we are seeing this now.

I do not recall that....however whom ever did was most likely referring to ADE which is real...not what some fact checkers are saying. Your body over reacts to contacting covid19 and causes a Cytokine Storm....immune response is over reacting.

The letter from Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is scary stuff and the vaccine was a risk to begin with. Once they found out it does not stay in the muscle of the injection site and it spreads all over, they should have stopped the jab.