Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1981342)

I'm curious about something: if the study was done in Cape Cod after a super spreader event, i.e. a beach party, which is outdoors, and even those who had been vaccinated contracted the Delta variant of COVID, then are large outdoor gatherings risky even if they ask for proof of vaccinations and/or negative tests?

I thought the concern was over indoor events but this study seems to say that any large gathering of people is problematic. So does that mean those who attend a concert or sporting event, like a baseball game in a large stadium with people yelling and cheering in close proximity to one another, intermingling on the concourse, etc. should wear masks even though they are vaccinated and outdoors?

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1981285)

Tell me that you are not going to allow fear to rule your life this far into your tenure? There are too many "what if's" in this lifetime to bother wasting time on things that haven't happened yet. Do your best to prepare and leave the rest of the worrying up to GOD. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1981324)

They said it's more transmissable and those who are diagnosed with it have higher viral loads but there is no evidence they get any sicker. At any rate, I'm sure there will be more variants coming down the pike. Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, a leading European viriologist, warned against mass vaccinations in the middle of a pandemic because it would create dangerous variants.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1981351)

yes!

Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1981358)

You mean this guy?

Expert in his field.....Not like Fauci at all.....

Vaccine Expert Gives "Final Warning" STOP All Mass COVID Vaccinations Immediately or face unleashing incurable, deadly, unstoppable wave of disease

Hal Turner Radio Show - Vaccine Expert Gives "Final Warning" STOP All Mass COVID Vaccinations Immediately or face unleashing incurable, deadly, unstoppable wave of disease

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1981362)

Well, if he's like Fauci it makes him and his warnings all the more believable. He's a prominent virologist and not an anti-vaxxer. He embraces the mRNA vaccines and thinks they are great, but should not be used in this manner. I think we are seeing his warnings, which he gave in the spring, come to fruition.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1981287)

Good question! And interesting, compared to all the hysteria we get on here every time some new information is presented. I wonder if maybe the "long haul effects" might be more serious in conjunction with how serious the infection suffered. Perhaps, the "effects" might be lighter or even non-existent in those that have been vaccinated and infected? Just my speculation. We seem to have a few "experts" on here that I am sure will enlighten us with their experience related to contagious diseases.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1981308)

So you are thinking your mask protected YOU?????

And I thought that ship had sailed over a year ago.

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1981310)

I suppose that's why public schools can mandate vaccines for students as a prerequisite for enrollment. Even before COVID, parents were skirting around the vaccination requirements claiming religious exemption. Some states tightened up their laws because they were seeing big outbreaks of whooping cough and measles, dangerous diseases for some, especially the former.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1981314)

The most recent CDC findings are that DELTA is likely MORE deadly than past US variants. That is the whole reason that they recommended increased mask-wearing indoors and outdoors if in large, close groups. It is affecting younger people more.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1981327)

There has always been a HUGE loud honking enormous obnoxiously sickly sweet overbearing positive, that has been utterly rejected by the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers:

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(say it with me, kids)
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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1981342)

I'm curious about something: if the study was done in Cape Cod after a super spreader event, i.e. a beach party, which is outdoors, and even those who had been vaccinated contracted the Delta variant of COVID, then are large outdoor gatherings risky even if they ask for proof of vaccinations and/or negative tests?

I thought the concern was over indoor events but this study seems to say that any large gathering of people is problematic. So does that mean those who attend a concert or sporting event, like a baseball game in a large stadium with people yelling and cheering in close proximity to one another, intermingling on the concourse, etc. should wear masks even though they are vaccinated and outdoors?

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1981357)

Does anybody know the village bubble vaccinated rate? I guessing is well above national average? Like in 80 to 90 precent range? Maybe some one should start poll who vaccinated and who’s not? That way if we know numbers stop throwing stones from one side to other?

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1981357)

Does anybody know the village bubble vaccinated rate? I guessing is well above national average? Like in 80 to 90 precent range? Maybe some one should start poll who vaccinated and who’s not? That way if we know numbers stop throwing stones from one side to other?