[Chi-Town]

Chicago had 492 murders in 2019. In 1974 the city had 970. It's still deplorable but remember it being a lot worse.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

It’s just not Chicago. It’s KCMO, NYC area, St. Louis, Orlando, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Ect... about every major cities. The above has been bad for 50 plus years. Basically the agenda is to stop policing so illegal activities won’t be pursued. Basically 3rd world law and disorder like Mexico.

More and more money has been GIVEN to police departments all over the US and nothing has changed. Just as the war on drugs started in the 70’s there seems to be more available today than ever B4, with more money spent results are weak.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

That was a good post.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Chicago had 492 murders in 2019. In 1974 the city had 970. It's still deplorable but remember it being a lot worse.

They seem to be working on catching up to other cities and being murder capital of US.

[jklfairwin]

Most inner city shootings are gang and/or drug related. Unfortunately many innocents like the young girl and others are sometimes killed also. Gang and drug problems are primarily societal issues but also police issues. The flooding of America with easily accessible guns adds to the problem. Both avenues must be addressed to make progress on the shootings and killings.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz@comcast.net

I really get upset at comments like this. Chicago has had this problem for over 20 years why do you want to blame Trump why not Obama who was their senator from 1997-2004 and was President For 8 yrs why is he not the problem. He’s from there and yet he does nothing to help fix the problem. But haters like you what to twist your little minds into some how it’s the sitting president fault not the guy who was in office for 15 years who’s from Chicago .....put your hate down and open your mind so you can see what is happening.

Chicago has been a corrupt violent city since the Al Capone days 70+ years ago.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

It is illegal to use our armed forces in a civilian law enforcement role. Posse Comitatus Act.

[Mikef99]

I am not from Chicago thankfully, but it still concerns me tha this is the becoming the "new normal". Murders and violent rioting not being reported on and seems to not concern the local leaders. If you have not heard the meeting held on the phone between the mayor and the council, they just curse one another, call each other names and the yelling. No business was discussed or agreeded upon, because they could not even talk to one another.
If you heard In Portland, the mayor is attacked on the streets trying to support the riots and the rioters go to his house he just decides to move not address the problem.
The violence is out of hand needs to be stopped.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

Defund the police isn’t the answer. And Rudy Giuliani cleaned up New York. Feds offered to help with Chicago violence.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by John41

Defund the police isn’t the answer. And Rudy Giuliani cleaned up New York. Feds offered to help with Chicago violence.

There are answers but the powers to be in these cities are not interested.

[Shell1234]

Feel the same. Why isn’t anything done EVER!!!

[Danz654]

Where are they getting the ammo