Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1933240)

No argument at all--it's certainly possible. But it's also possible it was due to other factors. No way to know for sure.

Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1932837)

Some people have none of the above, so they have to be led by the nose whether it's a green light red light on the street corner or someone on TV telling them to wear masks. It's common sense to continue to wear your mask. It's common sense to take the vaccine if it's available to you even if only 5% of 5% of 5% can still get infected or pass it on to somebody else wouldn't be there the right thing to keep wearing a mask so you don't get infect someone else or get it from someone else. Why do these things bother you so much. Just relax and enjoy life as best as you can. It doesn't matter who's in charge, I believe both sides are trying to do their best as far as this horrible disease goes. I don't blame anybody and I don't give anyone credit for dealing anything better than the next guy because life just happens. Unfortunately people are dead and it has ruined a lot of people's livelihoods but my neighbors certainly didn't do anything bad and my family didn't do anything bad. Just continue to have faith wear a mask is probably another year or two or more and be thankful you're not in a hospital suffering. Like I said common sense and if you don't like what they're saying turn off the darn TV and stop reading those internet comments

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1933244)

Possibly a sophisticated mathematical regression analysis could isolate the MOST likely variable?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1933139)

Yep, here we go again. Yes, 0.008% is not zero. But it is so close to zero as to be irrelevant. (and don't give me any crap that it's relevant if YOU get it). Did you see where NASA estimated the chances of getting hit by a meteorite at about 4 times higher than a vaccinated person getting COVID????? Do you walk around looking at the sky???? Or live your life in a bomb shelter???? If not, why are you concerned that a vaccinated person will pass COVID to you. Plus, if you are vaccinated, the chances are now 0.008% x 0.008%, or is that not zero either?

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1933252)

Well, first off 1 in 13,000 definitely is a small percentage, but not irrelevant. Second, the quote from the CDC said, "It is important to note that reported vaccine breakthrough cases will represent an undercount." so that's not exactly a number you can bank on at the moment.
Then the NASA thing - I was going to pass on that post, but since you brought it up... That's a ludicrous number: it implies that 1 in 3000 people will be hit (or have been hit! :shocked:) by a meteorite during their lifetime??? :1rotfl::1rotfl: That's really funny since, as of 2016, there's only ONE person confirmed to have been struck by a meteorite in history, according to National Geographic. (Warning: you may have to create an account to view the article.) The True Story of History'''s Only Known Meteorite Victim
And that's not crap either. :rolleyes: Unlike the "0.008% x 0.008%" idea, which is not really founded in math, science or facts, just throwing around some numbers.

Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1933246)

Wear a mask for another year or two after being fully vaccinated, and with most of the US population having the ability to be vaccinated by the summer? Is this a serious post?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1933247)

Maybe, but probably the best you could get is a 70-80% probability, meanwhile, there are posters on this thread who think 0.008% isn't good enough. :1rotfl:

Originally Posted by Ptmckiou (Post 1933261)

I don’t understand the frustration. I follow what the CDC has on its website....not talking heads, or any politician. They have been very consistent with their information, as their knowledge of the virus expands.

Being a new form of SARS, science has to be fluid as it gains knowledge. Understandable. Right now anyone vaccinated, in a group of everyone else vaccinated, doesn’t need to wear a mask. We will never reach herd immunity, unless 75% of people get vaccinated. What happens below 75%, is giving an abundance of “food” (unvaccinated) to the virus which increases the risk of variants of the virus forming that have out smarted the current vaccine. We want to keep that food level down, which lowers the risk....but, that includes the entire world of unvaccinated, not just USA.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1933227)

THIS is NOT the "flu". This is not the seasonal flu that makes people sick and is a little different every year. THIS is a killer of people who are OLDER. KILLER. ONE OUT OF TEN DIE....if they get it. If they are MY AGE.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1933221)

True. And that shows that masks are effective. But, masks were not used in the past for colds and flu because the risk of hospitalization or DEATH was NOT as great as from CV. The future might hold a lot of mask-wearing.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1933258)

In all fairness, I didn't believe that 1 in 3000 number either (But since it was on the internet it must be true:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:). But you really shouldn't hide under your bed for the 1 in13,000 that might spread COVID

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1933244)

Possibly a sophisticated mathematical regression analysis could isolate the MOST likely variable?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1933242)

Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.

Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1933246)

Wear a mask for another year or two after being fully vaccinated, and with most of the US population having the ability to be vaccinated by the summer? Is this a serious post?