[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The point is, these dogs didn't just appear out of nowhere. They came from someplace that wasn't all that great in the first place. If you fix that place, you won't find all those unwanted dogs in the kennel. People won't be so eager to dump them on you. The dogs need to live SOMEWHERE.

If you want to compare accurately, how about we just leave them in their former homes where they are abused and used for bait in dog fights, or who are abandoned in their yards and left to starve? Why not just do that?

And let's carry that comparison (since you're the one who wants to compare immigrants to unwanted dogs) to people:

How about we just euthanize all the immigrants? Unwanted mongrels, let's just put them all to sleep. Whenever they come to our kennel (the border) we don't even check to see if they're adoptable. We just put them down.

No? You don't want to do that? Why not? That is the comparison you are choosing here. Unwanted dogs = unwanted immigrants.

It's a sick comparison. And I wouldn't do that with a dog, either by the way. Fix the problem at its source. The countries these people are coming FROM are inhospitable to civilized human existence. They have to go SOMEWHERE and they don't have the means to buy an island and create their own peaceful civilization. So they come here.

Will we tell them they have to go back to being abused, murdered, terrorized, sold into slavery, tortured? Or will we take them WHILE we attempt to get their home countries to stop doing this to each other?

You only get to pick one option.

I choose humanity. Even if it's inconvenient.

You have put MANY, MANY words in MY mouth And you took my dog's analogy too literally. It really was NOT about dogs. I LOVE dogs and they LOVE me - for the record! You choose to NOT look into MY ideas with ANY depth. That's OK. I still will VALUE your ideas, even ANY that are outliers.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Let's talk about whether the US is fundamentally racist.... - YouTube

There it is on youtube for you.

I watched it. It was, sort of, weak on covering any new ideas. Sorry!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I am obviously a liberal, but I think the Student Loans program signed into law by LBJ was a major cause of the decline in education at the college level.

Excessively high salaries at the top end drove up college costs and helped THAT decline.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Bigoted like Tucker?

Tucker is no bigot, unlike the propaganda and disinformation spewing talking heads on the so-called mainstream media who even partially censure transcripts, videos and records of events to skew the story to fit their agendas.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Bucco

You do understand that elimination of CRT as you support, means exactly what you oppose here.

It allows elects officials to decide what NOT to teach.

IF CRT is allowed the kid get the benefit of the truth

This post of your is supporting the censoring of our country's history to satisfy an agenda. Is this what you think our country stands for ?

Add this to all the other conspiracies and untruths and what do you have......

What we have is apparently an impossible divide. You have stated your position ad nauseam. Based on my own research , I completely disagree. Perhaps someday, you will actually research the issue but I will no longer waste my time trying to lead the horse to water since it will not drink. Good day.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves.

If the shoe fits....

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

CRT is not being taught in grade schools. It's a non-issue. It's not a thing. The "CRT is being taught in grade schools" is fiction, propaganda, a conspiracy theory of the alt-right and Qanon. It's not a thing that's actually happening. There are no reports of it actually happening anywhere. There's only people screaming that it's happening and needs to stop. But you can't stop something that isn't actually happening.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

CRT is not being taught in grade schools. It's a non-issue. It's not a thing. The "CRT is being taught in grade schools" is fiction, propaganda, a conspiracy theory of the alt-right and Qanon. It's not a thing that's actually happening. There are no reports of it actually happening anywhere. There's only people screaming that it's happening and needs to stop. But you can't stop something that isn't actually happening.

Parents beware: CRT which is nothing but racist garbage propaganda and brainwashing, is being used in grade schools. Critical Race Theory in American Classrooms | City Journal

Schools are there to educate children, not indoctrinate them with socialist nonsense.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

CRT is not being taught in grade schools. It's a non-issue. It's not a thing. The "CRT is being taught in grade schools" is fiction, propaganda, a conspiracy theory of the alt-right and Qanon. It's not a thing that's actually happening. There are no reports of it actually happening anywhere. There's only people screaming that it's happening and needs to stop. But you can't stop something that isn't actually happening.

Thank you.

These are the same folks who believe, as stated on Fox, that the FBI was "behind the Jan 6 riots", that consistently say CRT is taught, that support any QAnon conspiracy, who preach openly anti American dialogue, who believe everything is a conspiracy, who do not believe in any election that their candidate loses.

Same people, same old non reality accepting, unamerican, people.

Then their backers who will slam anyone who might be aware of reality, anyone who will not share their hate, who sees a bad person around every corner (except if they might share their party)

It is sad not only to read, but depressing to think they pass all this unamerican talk to children, grand children, etc.

I believe sincerely that they do not realize that they are destroying from inside, not only our country, but their own party.

Facing reality will be a shock for these folks. So long without it.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

If the shoe fits....

I will certainly share your feelings with Lord Byron when I see him..

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I NEVER suggested that Blacks and Browns were too ignorant at ANYTHING. I WOULD suggest that maybe you should get more informed about the dark, hidden ramifications about the lines drawn by gerrymandering.

same people who says DC should be a state and who benefits.

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

You are taking a Progressive view on immigration, the "standard" view. I am a Progressive about ALL other issues. And, actually, maybe (?) my view is ssssooooo much more progressive that it could seem backward or conservative. Here is MY thinking......MOST people judge a country's value by GNP, which is good for certain things like power and economic growth. Most average people JUDGE their lives by how GOOD they feel about various elements. I would call that more like "Quality of Life" - which can be looked up on lists for comparisons between countries. I would call Quality of Life to be a better measuring stick than GDP. And I would call thinking in those terms of Quality of Life to be PROGRESSIVE and GDP to be more conservative.

I contend that after about 275 Million people in the US, that each NEW arrival has caused the Quality of Life to decrease. People talk about the "good old" days of the 1950s and 60s and in MANY ways, they are RIGHT. The ratio of natural resources to population was in a BETTER balance then than today. I gave my analogy about a home having more and more dogs - causing Quality of Life to go from good to bad. Try putting more and more goldfish in ONE bowl and SEE the same idea. I understand that your interpretation is the currently prevailing one and mine is the CURRENT outlier. I, also, believe that most people have NEVER really thought about it. It is EASY to believe that the status quo is the RIGHT and best solution. And it would, also, be COSERVATIVE. I am questioning the status quo, therefore, I am PROGRESSIVE.

May I suggest reading the Lima Declaration. It's black and white. There is a reason to flood our land from third world countries. Also read the Great Reset all there for those who use critical thinking.