[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by allsport

He was a drug addicted man who had some fentanyl on board but not enough to kill someone his size and who had his tolerance due to years of abuse. Read the science.

He was a CRIMINAL who resisted arrest, read the LAW. He shouldn't be dead, but he should not be canonized either

[Get real]

Floyd killed Floyd.

[Tom2172]

Cause of death fentanyl overdose!
But fakenewsmedia need propaganda brainwashing so they blamed cops and America
Fakenewsmedia is worse then fentanyl overdose and much more painful

[Marykschulz]

Reverse the races of the cop and the victim. I bet a whole bunch of the posters here would have a different opinion.

[GOLFER54]

The worry is if the police officer is found to be not guilty, protesters will burn and riot throughout our country. I find this to be unacceptable and those who do these behaviors should be arrested immediately. Unless you live under a rock you should know Floyd was a menace to society and was full of drugs when he died. The police officer will not get first degree murder, but he will probably get 3rd degree manslaughter, to appease the public. Nevertheless, regardless of the punishment, some folks will never be appeased, so rioting, looting and burning of buildings will happen anyway.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by cleosmum

My husband was in law enforcement for 38 years, and I am very pro law enforcement. But in this case, Derek Chavin absolutely used excessive force with no regard for the “perp”. “I can’t breathe” 27 times and he ignored it? I hope that Derek Chauvin spends many years behind bars. I expect more decency and compassion from our law enforcement officials, who normally do a great job.

He was yelling "I can't breath" before the even had him in handcuffs...

It's the new "get out of jail free" card...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by allsport

I don't care what you were taught, you do not kneel on a man's neck and on his stomach compressing his lungs just to restrain. When the man has no pulse, you continue on his throat and think that is appropriate. Stop the misinformation, most police departments have outlawed this process because it is meant to kill.

According to the autopsy, none of what you said happened...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by allsport

He was a drug addicted man who had some fentanyl on board but not enough to kill someone his size and who had his tolerance due to years of abuse. Read the science.

According to the autopsy, his lungs were full of fluid, weighing 2-3 Xs normal...

He was already dying from the Fentanyl overdose...

I did read the science...

[noslices1]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Police training videos show that putting a knee on a person's neck is an acceptable restraining procedure. This was not the cause of death. George Floyd was 6 foot 3 and weighed 225 pounds. Chauvin was 5 foot 9 and weighed 145 pounds. Floyd was resisting arrest and was high on drugs. Put yourself in Chauvin's position. I hope he is found not guilty. My 2 cents.

He MAY have died from something else, but he certainly died from not being able to breathe for 9 minutes. I am totally Pro-Police, but he did not have to die that day

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by allsport

Kneeling on a man's throat with his lungs crushed into the pavement is a way to kill not restrain. Most police departments do not permit this type of restraint. The murder part came when the man said, I can't breath and then had no pulse and the killer refused to get off of his neck.

Good thing none of what you said actually happened...

He was going with the "I can't breath" before they even got him out of his car...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by noslices1

He MAY have died from something else, but he certainly died from not being able to breathe for 9 minutes. I am totally Pro-Police, but he did not have to die that day

The autopsy says otherwise...

And yes, he did not have to die that day. Simply complying with the 4 officers who were trying to arrest him would have saved his life.

It's interesting how the other guy in the car followed instructions and wasn't harmed in any way...

[4moiSRT8OldCodger]

Where in the blue blazes did you come up with Chauvin weighing 145 pounds?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

The autopsy says otherwise...

And yes, he did not have to die that day. Simply complying with the 4 officers who were trying to arrest him would have saved his life.

It's interesting how the other guy in the car followed instructions and wasn't harmed in any way...

If simply complying would have saved his life then it was the interaction with the officers that ended his life, yes? That is what the trial should be about, whether the action of the officer caused or contributed to his death.

He was on the ground, handcuffed, one knee on his neck, another knee at least occasionally on his back, not moving, and not breathing and yet the officer still applied pressure. Can you explain what more he needed to do to comply when dying was not enough?

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If simply complying would have saved his life then it was the interaction with the officers that ended his life, yes? That is what the trial should be about, whether the action of the officer caused or contributed to his death.

He was on the ground, handcuffed, one knee on his neck, another knee at least occasionally on his back, not moving, and not breathing and yet the officer still applied pressure. Can you explain what more he needed to do to comply when dying was not enough?

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I support LEOs all across the country - an unforgiving job, esp the last few years. I ALWAYS thank them personally when seeing some in a store etc.

But, no matter the other circumstance noted here, NINE MINUTES is the deciding factor for me. period. What was the cop thinking all that time?

EVERY group has bad apples - the focus should be culling them out. But 'excusing' the criminals and offenders is NOT the right thing to do.

But the Media etc etc pressure on all of this is troubling. Rodney King all over again? Gotta wonder if stores are all boarded up and citizens worried once the verdict comes out.
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[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If simply complying would have saved his life then it was the interaction with the officers that ended his life, yes? That is what the trial should be about, whether the action of the officer caused or contributed to his death.

He was on the ground, handcuffed, one knee on his neck, another knee at least occasionally on his back, not moving, and not breathing and yet the officer still applied pressure. Can you explain what more he needed to do to comply when dying was not enough?

He applied so much pressure that Floyd was still able to lift his head and move around...

You act like the officer Who was surrounded by screaming people knew that Floy was dead.

In reality, he wasn't pronounced dead until much later...

But with your logic, it's the officer's fault any time a suspect is injured, regardless of the suspects actions...

I mean, it was the cop who initiated the interaction, right?