From Dr Mercola....Holidays with Covid...this is such an important reminder..

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In Japan and China, face-masks out in public are more common than bare faces. It is the cultural norm. Not because it's mandated (it isn't mandated) but because that is how they show perfect strangers who they've never met and never will meet again know they care about each others' place in humanity and civilization.

In the USA and in many other countries, no one gives a flying fart about people they've never met and will never meet again.

Also, "Dr." Mercola LOLOLOLOLOL
They wear masks because of the horrible pollution in their countries.
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Old 11-12-2020, 07:43 PM
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I've seen plenty of practicing physicians - doctors who actually care for patients every day in Primary Care, Urgent Care, ER say that this virus has been overblown. Big time.

Hospitals are not and never have been overwhelmed by this thing. Bodies are not piling up in the street. There is evidence to suggest that cloth masks and all of the hyper sanitizing and distancing that people are doing could very well be doing more harm than good. It could actually have some very serious consequences for our immune systems.

I have heard sad tales about children, teenagers and young adults who have been isolated inside their homes away from people their age since the beginning of this. They go to school virtually. They play video games and talk on social media but that's about the extent of their lives. They are missing out on so much fun and they will never get that time back. It's sad but their parents have bought into the fear hook, line and sinker and they think that they are keeping their kids "safe". That isn't safe.
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They wear masks because of the horrible pollution in their countries.
That is one reason. First and foremost is health. Here's a fun article written in 2014, explaning the history of mask-wearing in Japan. It dates back to the the early 20th century, as a result of the 1918 Influenza pandemic.

A quick history of why Asians wear surgical masks in public — Quartz

If it really filtered out pollution, then the front of those masks would be black from the soot after a few hours. It isn't - therefore it doesn't.
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I've seen plenty of practicing physicians - doctors who actually care for patients every day in Primary Care, Urgent Care, ER say that this virus has been overblown. Big time.

Hospitals are not and never have been overwhelmed by this thing. Bodies are not piling up in the street. There is evidence to suggest that cloth masks and all of the hyper sanitizing and distancing that people are doing could very well be doing more harm than good. It could actually have some very serious consequences for our immune systems.

I have heard sad tales about children, teenagers and young adults who have been isolated inside their homes away from people their age since the beginning of this. They go to school virtually. They play video games and talk on social media but that's about the extent of their lives. They are missing out on so much fun and they will never get that time back. It's sad but their parents have bought into the fear hook, line and sinker and they think that they are keeping their kids "safe". That isn't safe.
Well, that's just odd. Over the past several years, at least in my observation, children are seen less and less outdoors playing with friends on the street. My daughter even asked, when she revisited her hometown, "Where are all the children?" Answered her own question, "Well, I guess they're all inside." They're playing video games, texting and, as you point out, talking on social media.. Do they even ever talk on the phone? In fact, I wonder how often they ever see "friends" in person.
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If safety requires us to indefinitely forfeit the most valuable parts of our lives, what exactly are we trying to save?


LIFE WITHOUT HUMAN INTERACTION IS VERY DEPRESSING!
Two responses to the above.

First, the most valuable part of many of our lives is our health, so that is what we are trying to save.

Second, don't give me this crap about Covid causing loneliness and depression. Be mentally tough and deal with it like a responsible adult. If you can't, just try to imagine how you would deal with being mandatory quarantined, or worse yet, being on a ventilator. Talk about something that would depress you! The only thing about Covid that has depressed me is seeing several friends and a family suffer through it's very real and nasty consequences.
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Old 11-13-2020, 06:25 AM
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"Propaganda"...."controlled fear"....."special interest groups".....

Wow.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...96e_story.html

Tony Evers urges Wisconsin to stay home on day of record cases, deaths

Not sure what world you people live in, but your lack of compassion and understanding is more than alarming.

My wish is that none of you are personally touched by this, but perhaps that would increase your empathy.

It is as if we have just thrown up our hands and given up.....what you call "names", I call warnings from responsible people (our national message has disappeared)

May this virus never touch you or your family.

'Our hospitals are almost full' as virus spreads across St. Louis region | Coronavirus | stltoday.com

Some hospitals in crisis as US nears high for COVID-19 cases
Well said. The lack of empathy and concern for the common good that is continually revealed in this forum is appalling.
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"live your life" is so subjective. If you have no fear of getting very sick, left with long term painful damage (many Covid survivors are dealing with this) or even die, then of course go ahead and "live your life". Some of us who have strong concerns will be more careful. As long as we don't compromise each other's health than we just need to do what makes sense for our mental, emotional and physical condition and those of our family.
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COVID-19 has a survival rate of 99.99% for those under the age of 40. Even people over the age of 60 who aren’t residents of nursing homes have a survival rate of 98.29%, yet residents in many areas are now told, in great detail, how they can and cannot celebrate their holidays
Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, loneliness had reached epidemic levels. In 2018, 54% of American adults over the age of 18 reported feeling lonely. By January 2020, it was 61% and now, nine months into the pandemic, we’ve reached 66%
Loneliness isn’t relegated to the elderly. In the 18 to 34 age group, 75% report feeling socially isolated, compared to 61% of those over 50. Among those aged 18 to 34, 19% say they’ve gone as long as two to three months without interacting with another person
10% of 35- to 49-year-olds, 9% of 18- to 34-year-olds and 7% of those over 50 say they’ve not interacted with anyone outside their household or workplace since the pandemic began
If safety requires us to indefinitely forfeit the most valuable parts of our lives, what exactly are we trying to save?


PLEASE THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT!! FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WRAPPED IN FEAR, THERE IS REALISTIC STATISTICS....LIFE WITHOUT HUMAN INTERACTION IS VERY DEPRESSING! SHUT THE TV OFF, LIVE YOR LIFE!
Thanks for good article the Covid fear mongering is out of control with some wanting mask mandates and other loss of freedoms to appease those with their hair on fire about Covid. Follow the facts period. Plus the vaccine is coming very soon.
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COVID-19 has a survival rate of 99.99% for those under the age of 40. Even people over the age of 60 who aren’t residents of nursing homes have a survival rate of 98.29%, yet residents in many areas are now told, in great detail, how they can and cannot celebrate their holidays
Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, loneliness had reached epidemic levels. In 2018, 54% of American adults over the age of 18 reported feeling lonely. By January 2020, it was 61% and now, nine months into the pandemic, we’ve reached 66%
Loneliness isn’t relegated to the elderly. In the 18 to 34 age group, 75% report feeling socially isolated, compared to 61% of those over 50. Among those aged 18 to 34, 19% say they’ve gone as long as two to three months without interacting with another person
10% of 35- to 49-year-olds, 9% of 18- to 34-year-olds and 7% of those over 50 say they’ve not interacted with anyone outside their household or workplace since the pandemic began
If safety requires us to indefinitely forfeit the most valuable parts of our lives, what exactly are we trying to save?


PLEASE THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT!! FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WRAPPED IN FEAR, THERE IS REALISTIC STATISTICS....LIFE WITHOUT HUMAN INTERACTION IS VERY DEPRESSING! SHUT THE TV OFF, LIVE YOR LIFE!
and please wear a mask to protect others ... and yourself.
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Old 11-13-2020, 06:42 AM
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They wear masks because of the horrible pollution in their countries.
That's correct. Been to China. The air is just toxic. They are not doing it for their neighbors. That is all BS being spread via the fake news. Wear a mask if it makes you comfortable. Don't tell others that they have to wear one to protect others. That's nonsense and designed to control people.

What if I decided that others driving their car or stinky gas golf cart was polluting the air and affecting my asthma. Do I now have the right to demand that you keep those things parked and start walking to Winn Dixie? After all, you're being inconsiderate of my breathing needs. I could die of an asthma attack because you were too lazy to walk. No, I would never get away with that. And, that is why no one is going to demand that I wear a mask in public.

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Eating poorly causes high blood pressure, obesity, heart disease, and potentially cancer which everyone should live in total fear from. Perhaps we need the almighty government to save all of us all by mandating all of our diets every meal and putting laws in place against snacking. I can only hope they include a decent bottle of cab once in awhile with my weekly allotment of toothpaste.
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The “ cure” should not be worst then the disease ! Treatments have improved since the dark ages of March and April 2020, a vaccine is on the way and getting the virus doesn’t mean you will die. Thank you for the great stats
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Let families and people under 65 live their lives, go to work and school. If you are older than 65 sick and fearful. Stay away from those under 65. Why should a family be destroyed, business closed, suicide occur, because someone 80 years old with one foot in the grave is fearful. You lived a long life. Let others live.
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Look at the DAILY DEATHs in Florida for meaningful facts. Then analyze by Comparing to something else, like ABORTION in Florida.

There are 862,320 abortions performed a year in the US. 8.2% are done in Florida. That means there are 70,710 abortions performed in Florida Every Year. That is 193 A DAY!

Yesterday, in ALL OF FLORIDA, there were 4 DEATHS. The day before there were only TWO DEATHS in ALL of Florida. The day before that there were only 7 DEATHS from Covid-19 in the Entire State.

Why the concern and FEAR of Covid-19 when we apparently Support the killing of 193 Babies A DAY?

It's time to redirect concerns and cease the continued verbal baloney about the dangers of Covid-19.

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State Facts About Abortion: Florida | Guttmacher Institute
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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Finally someone with a brain. Best advise is to turn off the TV
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