[Marvic 1]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Since we are rehashing an old thread, do we need to go over the math again for these numbers?

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I've notice that the person that call these statistics "Fake News" has not even tried to apologize or even come up with better numbers on his defense (totally Ignoring the truth)....

.......... - ALL Lives Matter -

[gatorbill1]

Originally Posted by coalminer

A. Real man, a good man, will take responsibility and apologize for his mistakes. That's what Brees did. Very refreshing.

Agree totally - insecure men never make mistakes or apologize

[RichS$]

Just eliminate the flag demonstration and anthem before all professional games. Government has to pay the NFL for the show. Why bother?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Byte1

So, you feel that "politicians" should not speak about "politics?"

Like I said in another post, President Trump should not have said anything about CK and it would have gone away. I agree with the President, but also have seen how the weak have exploited his comments to fit their failed narrative. Better left alone to die off from lack of interest.

You need to go back and read the ENTIRE post.

It's #23...just to save you some time.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

Agree totally - insecure men never make mistakes or apologize

Interesting thought.

On the other hand, a person secure in their view should NOT be forced to change his stance based on the whim of the public, or money flow. Perhaps, it is better to just not make a public statement to begin with, and then no retractions or retreating from personal views will be necessary.

Some have taken satisfaction from his faux apology, but if they are that easily fooled then I am amused and satisfied that they are content.

Bree said he was sorry and the left rejoiced. Biden said he was sorry for all his racial blunders, damage and sexual predatory antics while in politics.....and everybody rejoiced and will award him with their votes. Both will be amused at how easy some are.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

Agree totally - insecure men never make mistakes or apologize

YEP...

[Scorpyo]

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1779326]In the previous thread, the moderator rightfully stated...




[SIZE="3"]In that vein, and following the moderator's reasonable request, let's address Drew's latest comment...made on Friday night.

I have the utmost respect for anyone who is willing to apologize for their remarks when they are wrong

It is your opinion that he was wrong. It is my opinion that he was right. So who is right? The majority of football fans did not appreciate Colin's actions. That's why the league instituted rules against it. So, is the majority wrong? Now under pressure from the vocal minority (squeaky wheel gets the oil) they are changing their position. Just like Drew did. So don't say he was wrong because it fits your narrative, I would suggest you simply say he succumbed to the pressure and in your opinion that was the right thing to do. If you are both smart and married, I'm sure you have been "right" a few times but decided it was prudent to acquiesce.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Scorpyo

It is your opinion that he was wrong. It is my opinion that he was right. So who is right? The majority of football fans did not appreciate Colin's actions. That's why the league instituted rules against it. So, is the majority wrong? Now under pressure from the vocal minority (squeaky wheel gets the oil) they are changing their position. Just like Drew did. So don't say he was wrong because it fits your narrative, I would suggest you simply say he succumbed to the pressure and in your opinion that was the right thing to do. If you are both smart and married, I'm sure you have been "right" a few times but decided it was prudent to acquiesce.

So what you're saying, is that decent people cannot change their mind or have a change of heart based on listening to additional viewpoints...or they're considered to be "succumbing/caving?"

That goes right along with..."insecure men never make mistakes or apologize."

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

That goes right along with..."insecure men never make mistakes or apologize."

Oh the irony. You must have missed a few comments just above this one.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Oh the irony. You must have missed a few comments just above this one.

Just a few???

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

So what you're saying, is that decent people cannot change their mind or have a change of heart based on listening to additional viewpoints...or they're considered to be "succumbing/caving?"


That goes right along with..."insecure men never make mistakes or apologize."

I’m saying I’m not a mind reader. Did you read his mind or did he share his reasoning personally with you? More times than not I’ve witnessed people change their position due to outside pressure as opposed to change of heart. For instance how many have employees been instructed to do something they did not agree with? How many times did they refuse to do what the boss instructed them to do and got fired as opposed to caving in? Maybe Drew had a change of heart or maybe he was a smart employee like so many employees are. We’ll never know but I like to bet with what I believe is the majority.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by stuart zaikov

just a few???

[daddymac1127]

I consider myself i reasonable person. Having said Drew Brees was expressing his opinion that he didn't have respect for someone "he felt was disgracing the Flag". He was probably taught that you are not supposed to do that. I was also taught that.

I agree that from my prospective that Flag was being disrespected by the kneeling. We have a RIGHT to our opinion. That's what makes the United States.

I also totally agree that Black Lives Matter as Drew Brees also stated. We can not agree with a person on something but agree on a cause. Again that's what makes the United States.

Have we gotten so petty that you have to agree with me totally on all subjects or you don't agree with me on any?

[BlackhawksFan]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

His apology was appropriate. He rightly recognized that kneeling during the anthem was not disrespectful. I served Proudly for 22 years In the US Army and totally support Kaepernick in his protest. It is hard for some to see the good that comes from peaceful protest. No one is more proud of the American flag than I am and I am overjoyed if using the flag or the national anthem to bring attention to the horrible problem of police brutality helps. We all should take a knee against any form of discrimination.

Unfortunately the Commissioner didn't see it that way and until shamed into it last week the NFL's stance hadn't changed in four years. They were brow beat by POTUS into the entire anthem/flag angle that as people see now actually had nothing to do with it.

I have further thoughts but I'm going to leave them be to keep in the spirit of the rules.

Oh and on a closing note thank you for your service, men and women such as yourself give our country and those of us lucky enough to live here our freedoms that many are currently excercising.

[jmpalladino]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Since we are rehashing an old thread, do we need to go over the math again for these numbers?

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I wonder if Drew has seen these stats.

I've changed my mind, I don't think Drew made the apology to protect his sponsorships.

He did it for self preservation. When you have 300 pound guys coming that want to tear your head off, you want to be sure your 300 pound blockers are well motivated.

What is the"Bureau of Justice" , the source of your slide? I have never heard of such a Federal Bureau. Fake Info, maybe?