Check my post, I never mentioned CA...
You stated that FL opened too early. If that were the case, since we have be open longer that the vast majority of states, we would have seen serious repercussions, resulting in soaring death numbers. It never happened!
Meanwhile NY, PA & MI closed their states down, shut business, restricted family gatherings, etc. and they still suffered more Covid deaths per capita than FL...
Those are the actual facts...

then the infection rate would be 100% for anyone how contacted the virus ?

Good reply! :thumbup:

Hmm, interesting. And yet, it seems that someone continuously disparages this country in favor of some other countries he has never visited, saying how bad this country is over and over again. Seems like it is the government that controls the perceived image that other countries get of us.
Seat belts should NEVER have been mandated. Americans can make self preservation decisions for themselves without "mandates" from the gov. Most of us do not NEED babysitters.

Americans have to be able to make decisions for themselves. When the going gets tough we have seen with our own eyes how the government responds. When Covid was at the scariest, government offices and schools shut down leaving private businesses like Publix and Walmart to figure out how to mitigate transmission and serve the public. This is typical government response.

When Congress felt threatened after the Capitol breach, they brought in thousands of National Guard troops, built a fortress around the Capitol and kept themselves safe. In the meantime, average citizens around the country are left to fend for themselves while violent mobs torch and terrorize their cities. And it's still going on. A 9 year old girl in Minneapolis was just shot in the head while she was outside jumping on a trampoline.

We are lucky to live in a state that recognizes the limits of government and values the rights of their citizens to make good decisions for themselves. Law and order is valued here and lawless behavior is not tolerated. We are very lucky.

Very confusing post. On one hand, the post is saying that government is ALL bad, but on the other hand, we need more Police (or other government force) to prevent that little girl from being shot. Make up my mind - more government or no government. To prove which is right I put forth the Seatbelt rule, by which government has saved immense lives and kept hospitals from being overcrowded and saved taxpayer $. And note that it was MANDATE..........a MANDATE AND FREE ENTERPRISE AND THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM WAS NOT HURT IN ANY WAY!!!!!!

Florida is sort of a laughing stock around the US. Late-night TV talks about the "STUPID Florida man". Florida earned that reputation over years of being strange.

I'm sorry to confuse you. The point of government is to work FOR the people, not control the people through excessive mandates.

There is a difference between providing a police force that insures that laws are followed and protects the law abiding citizens in a community and using the police to fine and arrest citizens for daring to open their private businesses or have one too many family members at their Thanksgiving gathering. Government mandates have absolutely hurt this country. You are just lucky to live in a state where sanity has ruled.

Florida got it right. Many states DID NOT.

What about those millions of people who have not developed natural immunity (aka not having had Covid already)? Those are the folks who need to be vaccinated. Why risk having a bad outcome from having the disease? Why risk being asymptomatic and STILL developing unbearable long haul Covid side effects? The idea of SAFE herd immunity is what is needed to fight this invisible enemy.

Thank goodness there were enough people willing to be vaccinated against Small Pox so herd immunity was reached and the disease was eradicated. Thank goodness there were enough people willing to be vaccinated against polio so herd immunity was reached and eradicated the disease. Our society has become a society of _______________ You fill in the blank.

A person with natural immunity does their part to for our country to achieve herd immunity. But......that was a risk to anyone who was willing to contract the disease or was just an unlucky person who contracted the disease or who did not follow guidelines and was unfortunate to have contracted the disease. I'm sure people did not go and and TRY to contract the Covid virus. Well, maybe there were some stupid kids who were having Covid parties to see how many of them would contract the disease. IMHO, that was truly dumb.

Bottom line.....it is much safer to be vaccinated for Covid than to contract the disease.

‘Natural Immunity’ From Covid Is Not Safer Than a Vaccine - The New York Times

The mRNA vaccines continue to give protection against the variants besides the original strain so I'm not sure what you mean here. This article is dated May 14, 2021............

Vaccines seem to work well against Covid variants. It's also complicated

It's their life and their risk to take. Most people are not going to get that sick even if they do catch Covid. The most vulnerable people have a high vaccination rate.

Children are far more at risk from other viruses and bacteria than they are from Covid. Keeping them isolated and "safe" has weakened their immune systems. Pregnant women who have stayed isolated and safe are not able to pass healthy antibodies onto their newborns.

There is more than one side to the coin. Covid is a big deal in nursing homes but not a big deal in elementary schools. The important thing is that the most vulnerable have access to the vaccine. Let those who are less vulnerable figure out if they need this vaccine or not.

Donald Trump and Melania had Covid. They were advised by their doctors to get vaccinated. They had their first shots before they left the White House. It is very prudent to get vaccinated even if you have had Covid.......

When Should You Get Vaccinated if You’ve Had COVID-19? – Health Essentials from Cleveland Clinic

Please give me an example of one adverse side effect. I DO NOT mean the usual side effects such as fever, body aches and generalized flu like symptoms. Tell me about a side effect that is truly adverse.

If you are not in the vulnerable group, why risk being vaccinated and have a potential long term problem?!?...