[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Is abortion murder? If it has to be killing a person, then we circle back to what is a person.

First - define human, then we can decide if something is murder.

Do you consider cake batter a cake?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by noslices1

Just putting the decision back in the hands of the States. Nothing in the Constitution regarding abortion. Anything NOT in the Constitution should be decided by each State.

So, you are okay with not having the right to put coffee creamer in your coffee? Or drive a motorcycle?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Do you consider cake batter a cake?

I agree, I do not consider cake batter a cake.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

Can’t wait to see how many men on here will be discussing what a woman should or not do with her own body

Amen

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

So, would you prefer murder be left up to the States? Drug use should be a state decision? How about illegal immigration? I mean why should people in Wisconsin deal with illegal immigration, except maybe from Canada? If we keep going, we don't need a federal government at all, and everyone can just live in a state that does what they want.

Isn't that what is happening now?

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Who is protecting the rights of the fetus/baby??

Why do you think the fetus should have rights?
I support a woman right to choose to a point.
I do not support late term abortion

Wish men truly understood but this is one subject men can’t ……..men will never be in her shoes for this reason they should not have a say.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Do you consider cake batter a cake?

I do as soon as the batter has a heartbeat.

[ScottGo]

It's a women's decision, the courts should have nothing to do with it!

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

False argument:

I think you misunderstand my post.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Why do you think the fetus should have rights?

When does someone begin to have rights??

[Dlbonivich]

I agree with you, it is not a ban. Rights revert to the states. I do not care your decision, I do not want to pay for it with tax payer dollars.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by biker1

My preference would be that the states enact their own laws. This way if you don't agree with the law you can move to another state. Such freedoms don't exist with Federal Law unless you want to leave the country. The SC is doing their job by ruling on Roe.

I prefer it be federal. I am a citizen of the United States first and for most. I just happen to life in FL.
As a citizen of the US I want the federal courts to protect my rights no matter where I live.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

So, would you prefer murder be left up to the States? Drug use should be a state decision? How about illegal immigration? I mean why should people in Wisconsin deal with illegal immigration, except maybe from Canada? If we keep going, we don't need a federal government at all, and everyone can just live in a state that does what they want.

Wonder how "United States" fits into that?

Murder is a state crime with a few exceptions, such as when the murder takes place on federal land, it is a federal judge who is murdered, or when the suspect is apprehended fleeing to another state.

Drug use is largely a state decision. States are allowing increased marijuana use such as for medical reasons, and in some cases even recreational use (ten states plus Washington DC have approved it for recreational use). The feds get involved in cases of interstate drug commerce or when other federal laws are broken in the process. The War on Drugs and the creation of the DEA were implemented for this reason, not so much to curb usage but commerce in drugs.

Illegal immigration? There again the feds get involved (though not nearly so much as they could) when federal law is broken. Strictly speaking every illegal alien has already broken federal law when they cross the border. States get involved when the illegals break STATE laws, though there is an increasing effort by states to control what in large part the federal government decides not to enforce.

The Constitution, per the Tenth Amendment, is clear on this: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." We were birthed as a country with strong STATE'S rights. I think the trend may go back that way.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

My Body, My Choice people should have been smarter about their first choice & wouldn't have to make the second choice. As stated by a friend.




Yes, Yes, Yes, rape is different.

Spoken like a man………..
Like the choice of the men saying it’s not mine…..your body your problem
Which happens everyday, men walk away and then men what to have a say….what a joke

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Spoken like a man………..
Like the choice of the men saying it’s not mine…..your body your problem
Which happens everyday, men walk away and then men what to have a say….what a joke

I've never walked away, so can i say??

Maybe if the women made a better choice in the first place, she would not be considering murder.



(again, ignoring the rape issue)