Florida Amendment 3 Marijuana Legalization.

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Old 06-17-2024, 06:55 PM
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Nay. People smoke marijuana to get high, if it did not get you high off one joint you would not do it. Then you get in a car and drive, not safe and yes people do have wrecks when high due to impairment. You can have one drink and not be drunk. Also the tax money will go into the general fund not be earmarked for schools or law enforcement as the ads tout. Just like the lottery very little of the tax revenue will be seen by the school systems. You also have foreign crime syndicates running a lot of the "legal grow" facilities in the US. But one good thing is the number of guns on the street would go down since you cannot own a gun and do drugs.
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[QUOTE=JGibson;2341762]It's on the ballot this November.

It's estimated the tax revenue in the first year would be over $500 million and much more in the following years.

21 years of age would be the age limit and no cultivating on your own.

Medical marijuana is already legal in Florida and seems to obtain approval is a low threshold and really just about the money for doctor fees.

For those who say it's a gateway drug well alcohol or any mind altering medication can also be a gateway drug.

Yea or Nay on Amendment 3 for marijuana legalization?

Approving marijuana that is based on current science and regulated for appropriate adult use is definitely a smart move for the state of Florida. Built in market and a huge tax influx of funds for the state. Medical marijuana is already a given for may Floridians who need it medically and as a good way to improve way of life. Much better than drinking too much and especially better than doing hard pain killers. Anyway, it is time for this. I also understand the concern and fear of the other side. I believe that it can work for all.
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I watched marijuana legalization destroy Denver Colorado.
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Just want to add the Governor and Attorney General is against it and trying everything possible to sabbatoge it like putting restrictions on THC potency if passed.

If the voters approve it would take effect in 6 months.
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Making recreational Marijuana legal will bring in millions of tax dollars. Some of this money could be used for mental health help for the many that need it. It could also be used on homeless seeking affordable housing and education could benefit . Other State and local taxes could be reduced. Wife and I will vote yes.


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You realize marijuana isn’t a controlled substance, right? But those are actually legal and any doctor can prescribe them. It’s why people die from overdosing. Never once has anyone died from overdosing on pot.

Then why are people getting arrested when possessing it? I amazes me when they get pulled over for taillight out it turns into smell of marijuana they arrest when find marijuana, O and tail light violation not violation anymore.
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I watched marijuana legalization destroy Denver Colorado.
I've spent time in Denver before and after legalization. I don't believe that marijuana is the root cause of their problems. Many articles cite gang and gun violence as well as meth and opiodes have overtaken Denver. No mention of marijuana. I honestly have never seen a ring of pot smokers doing burglaries, robberies and gang-style shootings.

Most places that legalized weed have experienced lower crime (feel free to look up recent non-partisan studies) and also save money on people getting incarcerated for smoking a joint which is absurd when it's legal in many places and easy to access almost anywhere.

They legalized it in our area up north and the street dealers went out of business overnight and many just got legitimate jobs at dispensaries. Same thing happened when prohibition ended 100 years ago with alcohol.

I'm shocked that anyone is against all of the tax revenue that it produces. It's not like people start smoking weed when it becomes legal. That never happens.
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You realize marijuana isn’t a controlled substance, right? But those are actually legal and any doctor can prescribe them. It’s why people die from overdosing. Never once has anyone died from overdosing on pot.
What? Marijuana is not a controlled substance? What have you been smoking if you believe that. It is a Schedule one controlled substance right up there with heroin, LSD and meth. Which means there is no known legitimate use for the med and even prohibits almost all research.

The Biden administration has asked that it be reclassified as a lower category 3 controlled substance but there has not been any finalization of his effort which he began in 2022. But it getting closer.

After reclassification as a Schedule 3 controlled drug it will still be illegal under federal law to possess, grow etc except for legitimate medical uses. It will not decriminalize nor "legalize" pot. No matter what Florida does, possession will still violate Federal law. Attempts have been made to decriminalize on the federal level which results, of course, in the usual accusations of "soft on crime" and "must support the cartels" garbage.

A bill to decriminalize, remove marijuana from the controlled substance list, passed the House (HR 3617) in 2022 but died in the Senate under the threat of filibuster and the usual political infighting and posturing. Since the House changed parties there has been no action on the issue.
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What? Marijuana is not a controlled substance? What have you been smoking if you believe that. It is a Schedule one controlled substance right up there with heroin, LSD and meth. Which means there is no known legitimate use for the med and even prohibits almost all research.

The Biden administration has asked that it be reclassified as a lower category 3 controlled substance but there has not been any finalization of his effort which he began in 2022. But it getting closer.

After reclassification as a Schedule 3 controlled drug it will still be illegal under federal law to possess, grow etc except for legitimate medical uses. It will not decriminalize nor "legalize" pot. No matter what Florida does, possession will still violate Federal law. Attempts have been made to decriminalize on the federal level which results, of course, in the usual accusations of "soft on crime" and "must support the cartels" garbage.

A bill to decriminalize, remove marijuana from the controlled substance list, passed the House (HR 3617) in 2022 but died in the Senate under the threat of filibuster and the usual political infighting and posturing. Since the House changed parties there has been no action on the issue.
Controlled substance….a drug or other substance that is tightly controlled by the government because it may be abused or cause addiction….. which is why they’re trying to lower it because it’s actually not proved to cause any physical addiction. Mental addiction yes. Unlike Alcohol, pain meds and various products you can buy to sniff etc. all legally….

each year there are more than 178,000 deaths attributable to excessive alcohol use , making alcohol one of the leading preventable causes of death in the United States, behind tobacco and poor diet ...

I’d worry more about the first 2 on this list. The ones that should actually be on the controlled substance list.

Most addictive drugs…….

Nicotine
Alcohol
Opioids
Stimulants
Hallucinogens
Inhalants
Benzodiazepines
Barbiturates
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Old 06-18-2024, 03:47 AM
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Nope. The crime and other problems it brings is far surpassed by any revenue it brings in. Just google "pot Denver crime".

I'm not sure why we allow it to be dispensed the way that it is for medical purposes. Should controlled medical substances be dispensed by a pharmacy?

Finally, just like alcohol, kids are going to get it. Per the Mayo Clinic:

Marijuana use in teens

Marijuana contains more than 500 chemicals, of which delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is considered the primary psychoactive (mind-altering) compound. The concentration of THC in a marijuana product is directly proportional to its potency or how much of a high it will give when consumed. Marijuana use among adolescents and young adults can affect normal brain development, leading to problems in learning, memory, coordination, reaction time and judgment.

Excessive and frequent use of marijuana is associated with hallucinations, paranoia, and a range of emotional problems. The severe form of marijuana abuse is called marijuana use disorder. Youth who use marijuana at an early age, in high amounts and with the risk factors mentioned above are more prone to developing marijuana use disorder.


If it was restricted to adult in private, then I don't care. But you know it won't be. Move to NYC if you like the smell of skunk weed as you walk the streets.
They’re in the process of declassifying it as a controlled substance since it isn’t one by definition. Ironically both Alcohol and nicotine (which are exactly the definition of a controlled substance) are the top 2 most addictive drugs but hey, as long as the govt says it’s okay….. you should do a little research on deaths due to alcohol and nicotine vs pot. It’s scary that your only argument on the subject is from a Denver post. The 2 biggest celebrity pot heads that I know are Harrison Ford and of course Willie Nelson. You never see them in the headlines. I once was at Harrisons house and there were about 10 of us, he handed out baggies of weed with papers and a tray to each person. He loves his pot.
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No it is a thousand times more potent! Hahahaha. More BS. But we do have enough alcoholics dulling their lives, right?

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Today''s MJ is said to be a hundred times more potent than the weed our generation used as teens. As far as I am concerned, I have seen enough young folks with a lack of motivation and lack of willingness to work. I doubt if I could tell the difference if old folks smoked it or not. But, have fun enforcing DUIs due to pot influence. Sounds to me that the gov. wants more stuff to tax and folks want more medications to dull their "hard" life. Just keep that stuff away from me because I get sick when I smell the stuff burning.
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yup...its the smoke that terrorizes people who are against it. pop a gummy and no one knows the difference...
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Top 5 most addictive drugs.
1. Cocaine
2. Heroin
3. Alcohol
4. Nicotine
5. Meth

You know what isn’t addictive? Marijuana. The plant that’s grown from the ground untouched. I wish people would do research. Of course I support this and most everyone will. It’s a no brainer. You never see the headline…” Driver under the influence of weed killed……” Let’s not start on prescription medications like opioids. Not to mention the people who use both alcohol AND medications like opioids.
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Top 5 most addictive drugs.
1. Cocaine
2. Heroin
3. Alcohol
4. Nicotine
5. Meth

You know what isn’t addictive? Marijuana. The plant that’s grown from the ground untouched. I wish people would do research. Of course I support this and most everyone will. It’s a no brainer. You never see the headline…” Driver under the influence of weed killed……” Let’s not start on prescription medications like opioids. Not to mention the people who use both alcohol AND medications like opioids.
You forgot #6: Smart Phones
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