[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The Senate is planning on passing it. And the Governor will sign off on it.

Not according to the Governor, at least not in its current form.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Lol, I was never assigned that for homework and I don’t remember any kids checking out the Bible.

Would someone explain to me why it’s wrong to wait until a child reaches adulthood and reads these books. Is reading the books at a young age better for indoctrination?

I am a voracious reader but most of the reading has been through adulthood. Again, why the push to target children?

Some of us got past the Dick and Jane books and were on to bigger and better things. School libraries, that I knew of, never had ONLY required reading in them. We were allowed to select any book we wanted, there was no section we weren't "allowed" to check. If I, in 3rd grade, wanted to read Catcher in the Rye, I could check the book out. if I, in 7th grade, wanted to return to Dick and Jane, I could. If I was reading Catcher in the Rye in 3rd grade and didn't understand a concept I'd ask my parents. And they would explain.

Of course, that would require that the parents be directly involved in the upbringing of their own children.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Sorry this comes under “Government trying to parent a child that they don’t know, or pay for. Then pass a law that basically say you are unfit to parent and this is the first right we are going to remove.

Wait for the second law that states when, and how many girls you are allowed. Didn’t a country already do that……..

That ship has sailed. A variety of classic literature has been banned in various public schools for decades. In Florida, if a girl REALLY has to go to the bathroom, but the girl's room is full and the boy's room is empty, she just has to pee in her pants. Or else risk breaking the law by going into the boy's room. In Florida public schools, if the kids are talking about what they want to be when they grow up, Johnny isn't ALLOWED to say "I want to be like my two mommies, they're both doctors!" If 13-year-old Susie, who only just started menstruating a year before and her periods aren't regular yet, becomes victim of a crime by her uncle and becomes pregnant, she has to give birth all because she didn't know she was pregnant until she was in her third month, and by the time she was able to schedule an abortion, she would've been in her 16th week, and that is illegal in Florida. Parents of minor children living in poverty could've received an extra $120/month in the summer to accommodate the lunches their kids can't get in school, while school is out for the summer. But Florida chose to reject that. That amounts to less than $1.50 per day per kid for 5 days per week, to help offset the cost of lunches for those kids.

Children in Florida have no rights. Florida forces women to give birth in the name of "right to life" but once that life is outside the womb, Florida doesn't want to know about it.

[MidWestIA]

how will they enforce that??

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

It's a nice idea but that cats already out of the bag. A lot of parents gjve the cell phone to kids as a baby sitter. There are "games" available to children on the cell phone, some if which have unsuitable images and languages.

Well one can agree or disagree that a child engaged on a learning site as a child curbs public displays of unhappiness. (Think how many hate children in restaurants in TV)

Tablets and phones Very helpful when a child is autistic, just for the parents well being.

Our son, Behavioral Psychologist for autistic children, programs phones and tablets that are providing much needed help for child and parents.

A phone and a four year old autistic child can be a godsend no matter how you look at it.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by MidWestIA

how will they enforce that??

The bill doesn't prohibit children from accessing social media, the bill prohibits social media from establishing accounts for children. The onus is on the social media site to verify the age of the account holder and disallow accounts from those under a certain age.

I believe the bill says the personal identification information that is used for verification cannot be retained by the social media site. To me, this means there will be no proof that verification was performed.

Social media sites cannot ask for verification from just those under 18; how would they know? They must ask for verification from everyone. This means you and I will need to provide personal information to X, FB, ToTV, and others in order to keep our accounts.

One possible approach (taken by some porn sites in other states) is to block access for the entire state. Those with VPNs may be able to get around this though even then their experience will be be lessened since the site won't know where you actually are.

Enforcement: The Department of Legal Affairs is authorized to adopt rules to bring action for violations of the new statutes. It seems to be unclear how it will be enforced.

[bp243]

Originally Posted by Normal

The Florida House has passed a law through bipartisan support prohibiting kids under the age of 16 from using social media. We are the first state which has taken an action long overdue. What sites should be banned though and how can it be enforced?

Florida House passes bill banning children under 16 from social media: 'Kids can't stay off the platforms'

It’s about time!

So, are we asking parents to monitor their child's social media or they will be fined or punished in some other way? Hmmm...would love to hear how that law will be enforced.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bp243

So, are we asking parents to monitor their child's social media or they will be fined or punished in some other way? Hmmm...would love to hear how that law will be enforced.

That is not at all what the bill says.

On the other hand, holding parents accountable for what they allow or enable their children to do to others is not such a bad idea.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by bp243

So, are we asking parents to monitor their child's social media or they will be fined or punished in some other way.

Oh the outrage! Parents shouldn’t care about their children or their habits /s

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Some of us got past the Dick and Jane books and were on to bigger and better things. School libraries, that I knew of, never had ONLY required reading in them. We were allowed to select any book we wanted, there was no section we weren't "allowed" to check. If I, in 3rd grade, wanted to read Catcher in the Rye, I could check the book out. if I, in 7th grade, wanted to return to Dick and Jane, I could. If I was reading Catcher in the Rye in 3rd grade and didn't understand a concept I'd ask my parents. And they would explain.

Of course, that would require that the parents be directly involved in the upbringing of their own children.

We selected any book we wanted also, age appropriate. So how would Catcher in the Rye appeal to a third grader?

There are so many wonderful, educational, mind and character building books available for children under the age of eighteen. Why not allow access for the more mature subject matter after turning 18?

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

That ship has sailed. A variety of classic literature has been banned in various public schools for decades. In Florida, if a girl REALLY has to go to the bathroom, but the girl's room is full and the boy's room is empty, she just has to pee in her pants. Or else risk breaking the law by going into the boy's room. In Florida public schools, if the kids are talking about what they want to be when they grow up, Johnny isn't ALLOWED to say "I want to be like my two mommies, they're both doctors!" If 13-year-old Susie, who only just started menstruating a year before and her periods aren't regular yet, becomes victim of a crime by her uncle and becomes pregnant, she has to give birth all because she didn't know she was pregnant until she was in her third month, and by the time she was able to schedule an abortion, she would've been in her 16th week, and that is illegal in Florida. Parents of minor children living in poverty could've received an extra $120/month in the summer to accommodate the lunches their kids can't get in school, while school is out for the summer. But Florida chose to reject that. That amounts to less than $1.50 per day per kid for 5 days per week, to help offset the cost of lunches for those kids.

Children in Florida have no rights. Florida forces women to give birth in the name of "right to life" but once that life is outside the womb, Florida doesn't want to know about it.

I think your post is extremely political.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Boffin

Survival of the fittest.

Or the cruelest…

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

These law makers can't be serious, they can't stop kids younger than 16 from drugs, porn, drinking and sex. The cat is already out of the bag do they really think the can stop someone from going on to social media who's already made it part of their daily life.

And thus, witnessing the collapse of society and humanity. Stay tuned…

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by FredMitchell

It seems like nobody here is familiar with the First Amendment to the US Constitution, which the Supreme Court has found applies to all states as well!

Is that the freedom to bully, attack, sexually exploit and harm other children. Some freedom!

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by sharonl7340

I find it interesting that FL always touts that it is a parental rights state, meaning that parents should be making their own decisions about what their children can or can't do rayher than the state. But then it turns around and makes these sweeping laws about things that fall within the parent's sphere of decision making (thinking Healthcare for transgender children or social media). Sounds like FL is having an identity crisis of its own.

How can you even enforce such a law? What are the punishments if it is enforced? Is it really about "protecting" children or getting more money in the coffers from the fines that would be levied?

It’s about the collapse of society and ruination of our future, our children. Swirling the drain…