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Old 01-27-2024, 09:36 PM
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You're right of course. The Bible should be removed from all school libraries. It's filled with filth, degradation, inhumanity, torture, graphic violence, explicit sexual situations.

Check out Ezekiel 20:23 if you don't believe me. It's pretty insane that children are ENCOURAGED to read this stuff.
Lol, I was never assigned that for homework and I don’t remember any kids checking out the Bible.

Would someone explain to me why it’s wrong to wait until a child reaches adulthood and reads these books. Is reading the books at a young age better for indoctrination?

I am a voracious reader but most of the reading has been through adulthood. Again, why the push to target children?
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Old 01-27-2024, 09:40 PM
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This law should not and will not be passed.

Now I’m not saying that young kids should use social media, in fact with all the bullying going on I wouldn’t let my kids. But this is another step to taking our freedoms away.
Freedom? Why not let kids carry arms to target one another? That’s what bullying is and does to the targets. There is a loss of self esteem and happiness in those children.

If it’s allowed, you can’t keep your children from it even if they personally aren’t using social media. They just need to be attacked from that media.
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The Florida House has passed a law prohibiting kids under the age of 16 from using social media. We are the first state which has taken an action long overdue. What sites should be banned though and how can it be enforced?

Florida House passes bill banning children under 16 from social media: 'Kids can't stay off the platforms'

It’s about time!
One can't stop "progress" of course, and there are many valuable aspects of social media sites such as this one, and so many many others. But, IMHO, our entire culture has also suffered many negatives since the development of such sights. Everything has a price, and even we, adults in general, also pay a high price for all the joys social media sites can bring us. I personally welcome any attempt to at least slow down the dark crimes perpetrated on our children and teens, but I also think "the horse is out of the barn" and going to be VERY hard to capture and corral again !

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Old 01-27-2024, 10:25 PM
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My daughter says it is terribly frustrating to be the parent of a teen. Just when parents discover and block sites, kids find a work-around. She says it is like playing whack-a-mole. When parents take away their child’s phone, a friend provides a burner phone. She tells horror stories about challenges on TikTok. So glad the internet wasn’t around when my kids were teens. All I had to do was unplug her phone and hide it.
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The Florida House has passed a law prohibiting kids under the age of 16 from using social media. We are the first state which has taken an action long overdue. What sites should be banned though and how can it be enforced?

Florida House passes bill banning children under 16 from social media: 'Kids can't stay off the platforms'

It’s about time!
Another stupid law.

On paper sounds good. In meantime, most of these < 16 year olds know more about computer than their parents and most of them are 2-3 clicks away from hard core porn. Enforce it? Police Squad will be replaced by Internet Police. Leslie Neilson would have a field day.

In meantime Sumter County deputies are ticketing golf cart drivers for speeding.

When are they going to start arresting men from using the womans bathroom on a golf course and vice versa. Yes, our legislature recently said that a person needs to use the restroom per WHAT they were at birth and that is against the law. If a male is playing golf with 3 other guys and 4 of us need to go, guess where 1-2 of them are going. This could happen to the ladies also.

Our legislature is clue less.
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Old 01-28-2024, 04:33 AM
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These law makers can't be serious, they can't stop kids younger than 16 from drugs, porn, drinking and sex. The cat is already out of the bag do they really think the can stop someone from going on to social media who's already made it part of their daily life.
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The Florida House has passed a law prohibiting kids under the age of 16 from using social media. We are the first state which has taken an action long overdue. What sites should be banned though and how can it be enforced?

Florida House passes bill banning children under 16 from social media: 'Kids can't stay off the platforms'

It’s about time!
So you think that it is OK for the state to regulate how parents raise their children?
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So you think that it is OK for the state to regulate how parents raise their children?
No, I think parenting is different today. I don’t think all parents are good parents. I also don’t think all kids are the same. Most of course don’t even have fully developed brains till their mid 20’s. Are you suggesting all parents are good?

You do realize we still have parents out there that think it’s OK for their kids to use their phones in class? Yes, that rudeness towards others is out their and even encouraged by some. They don’t care about the impact their kids actions have on others or learning.
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It seems like nobody here is familiar with the First Amendment to the US Constitution, which the Supreme Court has found applies to all states as well!
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The Florida House has passed a law through bipartisan support prohibiting kids under the age of 16 from using social media. We are the first state which has taken an action long overdue. What sites should be banned though and how can it be enforced?

Florida House passes bill banning children under 16 from social media: 'Kids can't stay off the platforms'

It’s about time!
I find it interesting that FL always touts that it is a parental rights state, meaning that parents should be making their own decisions about what their children can or can't do rayher than the state. But then it turns around and makes these sweeping laws about things that fall within the parent's sphere of decision making (thinking Healthcare for transgender children or social media). Sounds like FL is having an identity crisis of its own.

How can you even enforce such a law? What are the punishments if it is enforced? Is it really about "protecting" children or getting more money in the coffers from the fines that would be levied?
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The worst part is having to prove you are an adult. How will that be done?
Scanning and submitting your driver license? Maybe your SSN? Send in a tax return too?
Do you really want Facebook to have that much information about you? Will they promptly delete that info after validation to prevent it from being misused or stolen (hacked)?

There will be 2 groups of people. Those who cave to this, and those who know how to get around it.
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No, I think parenting is different today. I don’t think all parents are good parents. I also don’t think all kids are the same. Most of course don’t even have fully developed brains till their mid 20’s. Are you suggesting all parents are good?

You do realize we still have parents out there that think it’s OK for their kids to use their phones in class? Yes, that rudeness towards others is out their and even encouraged by some. They don’t care about the impact their kids actions have on others or learning.
I agree that parenting is "different" today, for many reasons; one biggie being that many parents these days are parents by default, and many of them have their own problems relating to substance abuse, serial relationships, etc. In my opinion the primary responsibility of a good parent is and always has been to impart VALUES to their children. Unfortunately, two-married-parent households that teach values not just by words but by example is becoming more and more rare.

Unless a child is provably at-risk (and I suppose an argument could be made for that, in this case), I generally don't favor government stepping in. But in this particular case I think the emphasis is in the wrong place. Rather than banning sites so that KIDS cannot access provably dangerous sites, why not penalize PARENTS when it is proven that their children access such sites? Such a move would take the onus of parenting away from the government and place it squarely back on the parent(s), where it belongs.

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I agree that parenting is "different" today, for many reasons; one biggie being that many parents these days are parents by default, and many of them have their own problems relating to substance abuse, serial relationships, etc. In my opinion the primary responsibility of a good parent is and always has been to impart VALUES to their children. Unfortunately, two-married-parent households that teach values not just by words but by example is becoming more and more rare.

Unless a child is provably at-risk (and I suppose an argument could be made for that, in this case), I generally don't favor government stepping in. But in this particular place I think the emphasis is in the wrong place. Rather than banning sites so that KIDS cannot access provably dangerous sites, why not penalize PARENTS when it is proven that their children access such sites? Such a move would take the onus of parenting away from the government and place it squarely back on the parent(s), where it belongs.
For sure! If a kid is being bullied in school on a website, hammer the parents and crack down with fines on the host server. It is a lot like smoking, drinking, or watching rated R movies though. Kids will break the rules. I don’t think Tik Tok or others are necessarily a good influence, but then neither is gaming where you gain points while killing as many as you can. The issue is larger than laws we have or the laws that can fix our problems. I don’t like laws that block free speech, but then a law against yelling “fire” in a crowded movie theater was passed too.

Kids can and should be treated different than adults, they don’t always know better. The internet is basically unfiltered for all. Should it remain unfiltered for the more vulnerable youth, or just let them get crushed?
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More government trying to regulate our lives.
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