[Wondering]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

So much for the Global Warming & Climate Change deniers. Keep warming the oceans and gulf and see the increase in hurricanes, not to mention our homeowner insurance premium increases.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by rrthoresen

how about where the thermometers are located

The article mentions the MNBF1 buoy. Google it then go to the NOAA page where you will find it on a map.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Hopefully, no storms will form because of el nino and the Sahara dust. If any do form, TROUBLE! Hurricanes thrive in warm waters and are usually quite large. Not something I am wanting to experience.

A hurricane would reduce the water temperature. Perhaps hope for a fish hurricane.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

I guess you can dismiss as emotional hype all you want. Thermometers don't lie!

What would you suggest we do about it?

[justjim]

That great philosopher Andy Rooney said it best. “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”.

[Golfer222]

Dont know about "ever"--Seems like there was a hotter day about 13.8 billion years ago

[Normal]

Originally Posted by justjim

That great philosopher Andy Rooney said it best. “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”.

I always loved his ability to slice through the garbage people and the media dished out. It was the best part of 60 minutes to watch.

[Blueblaze]

EVER? Does that count the time Florida was part of the Atlantic Ocean and Dinosaurs ruled the Earth?

Or just the last 50 years since we've taken the temp with satellites? Or do you mean the last 100 years since we started measuring the ocean with thermometers? Seems like a pretty short "ever"!

Funny, though. Most of the previous "records" seem to be from the 1930's -- before most of the world discovered automobiles and air conditioning, and we started making up names for hurricanes.

Any guesses as to what caused 1932 to be such a hot year? Or how about that giant hurricane that wiped Galveston from the map in 1900 and killed 12,000 people? Was that because the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere exceeded 0.4% from all the horse flatulence before cars were invented?

I have to admit, the level of horse and bull emissions seems to be much higher these days!

[NewRealms]

Thank goodness for El Nino, Sahara Desert, and Jet Stream Wind shear. Should offset the warm waters in the Atlantic... for a while.

[rsibole]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

Two words - data points.

Fact, shallow water is warmer than deep water. Temperature previously taken in ten foot of water but now taken in six inches of water to prove someone’s point of view is certainly possible to have been done, especially in light of the other data point manipulations we seen in polls, surveys and reporting.

Conclusions drawn from manipulated data points are false, like the need to eliminate gas cooking stoves and raise taxes to cool the ocean is necessary.

Proven facts, like ocean currents and underwater volcanic activity, do cause localized changes (data points). However, change is constant and unavoidable. Changes are the result of self canceling activities over an entire spectrum. It’s often referred to as “nature” but in fact is natural law. And unlike man’s laws, natural laws cannot be broken or altered by man.

If it were not for change, natural laws, there would be no oceans, no gas stoves and no you or me.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by HoosierPa

My pool temperature this morning is 82 and will be about 85 at 3 pm. I’m going to enjoy it during my remaining days on earth and not worry about the ocean temperature too much unless I have spare time.

And I'm sure your grand children love you......

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by rsibole

Two words - data points.

Fact, shallow water is warmer than deep water. Temperature previously taken in ten foot of water but now taken in six inches of water to prove someone’s point of view is certainly possible to have been done, especially in light of the other data point manipulations we seen in polls, surveys and reporting.

Conclusions drawn from manipulated data points are false, like the need to eliminate gas cooking stoves and raise taxes to cool the ocean is necessary.

Proven facts, like ocean currents and underwater volcanic activity, do cause localized changes (data points). However, change is constant and unavoidable. Changes are the result of self canceling activities over an entire spectrum. It’s often referred to as “nature” but in fact is natural law. And unlike man’s laws, natural laws cannot be broken or altered by man.

If it were not for change, natural laws, there would be no oceans, no gas stoves and no you or me.

Where did you get the information that the previous readings were taken in ten feet of water but recent readings were taken in six inches of water?

According to the NOAA information for the MNBF1 buoy the readings were taken at a depth of 4.9 feet.

Is there an underwater volcano two miles off the Florida Keys? I wanna go see that!

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Bad news for the coral reefs.

That's one I do a fair bit of pondering about. Had a gap of many years between dives in the Keys and was shocked at the pitiful condition of the corals when I returned a couple of years ago. Have since learned that the die-off is due to some kind of bacteria (or pathogen of some type), but which kind has yet to be figured out.

We first lived in Pompano Beach after retirement so that I could shore dive from our condo. Between about Deerfield Beach and Fort Lauderdale there is reef running parallel to the shoreline starting as little as 100 yards off shore and in water as shallow as 11 feet. Comfy water temps of 85-86° in the summer months allows diving without neoprene. But, last summer I noticed that the temp rose to 87° (part of your dive computer info) for a short stretch and much of the coral soon suddenly bleached white. Interestingly, it all completely recovered in fairly short order. Haven't heard what's happening this summer, but I guess lobster mini-season is currently underway. Tiring of eating lobster is partly why we're here. :-)

My main ponderage, though, is whether the extent of coral reef growth will simply move north as ocean temperatures rise. Maybe folks won't have to drive as far for a dive vacation, eh?

[rogerrice60]

Good word!!
In the 60's, Global COOLING was the big concern, they feared the "ice cap " was so large it would tip the earth off its axis.
Find out what they did to correct that problem & dial it back a smidgen!

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Ever?

Ever is a long time.

Why not just "since the temperature of the oceans has been systematically recorded"? Which I couldn't find in the linked "study".

Rule of thumb: Whenever I see words like "always", "never", "everybody", etc. etc. as part of anything purporting to be science, I automatically discount it as emotional hype. I guess we can add "ever" to that list.

[Cliff Fr]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

According to an ABC News article about this it was only one bouy that showed the high temperature. All the others in the same area showed temperatures from 90 to 95 degrees. Could be a malfunctioning bouy.