[nututv]

Originally Posted by Keeferinspace

This might be a good place to ask where the closest shooting range is. Is there a gun club in The Villages? I don’t own a firearm but want to purchase one. It’s been over 30 years since I picked up a weapon—Marine Corps. Would enjoy picking up the hobby again.

My advice would be to purchase off an individual for obvious reasons.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

And some troublemakers use as an excuse. It's just the same trouble from the other end of the door.

Your ex-wife shows up asking for her late alimony check? Shoot her and tell everyone she was threatening you and you were standing your ground.

Some random guy you don't recognize comes onto your property hoping to find someone to help him find an address because he's hopelessly lost and the GPS isn't giving him Villages directions? Shoot him - and claim he was threatening you so you stood your ground.

It's an excuse to kill people, nothing more or less. The only interpretation involved is the REASON you took advantage of that excuse to kill someone. The end result is the same - someone is dead, and someone is holding the weapon that killed the corpse.

Do I think people shouldn't protect their property? Nope, absolutely not. I feel that people SHOULD have the right to protect their property.

But I call it what it is, not what sounds good in an NRA or anti-NRA video clip. It is "ending the life of another human being with a firearm."

Apply whatever justification you want to it, but the result is the same.

You do not understand the law on Stand Your Ground at all. A person shooting his ex-wife because she shows up at the door demanding a late alimony check or any of the other scenarios you presented will not hold water unless there is proof of an ACTUAL threat of death or serious bodily harm to the defender. A claim without evidence to back up the alleged threat will result in a murder charge.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ALadysMom

Fortunately for Villagers, the worst radical drops F-bombs on the golf course and the highest perch is probably atop a palm tree.

The ‘protests’ always start out peaceful. The thugs are cowards who hide within the crowds of people. Many of the people who march actually believe they are the voice of freedom from tyranny. But later, things get ugly and the tyrannical thugs rule the night. These are not a sit-in peace rally, folks.

BLM is enabling thug rioters

And we are being duped into quiet submission by BLM claims of desiring racial justice while they ignore or even facilitate chaos, destruction & lawlessness.

We are being tricked. We are too easily distracted by racial & political divisions to see what’s really going on. As long as we are busy squabbling with each other, we miss the real problem—one which we don’t disagree about. Socialism and a tyrannical government would be vehemently fought by both political parties & all races of American people.

It’s the old adage:
Divide & Conquer

Very few SMALL cities have pasts littered with terrorist's bombs. It only takes ONE time. And there are multi-story buildings around the Sumter square that are taller than Palm trees.

[nututv]

Lets not forget this is the same place that hosts a ton of conservative rallies. Care to imagine what a kook could do in the Sumter Square during one. It would mimic the Vegas deal easily.

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

List of riots - Wikipedia

Sure have been a lot of riots in the 2000s and 2010s all over the world.

Also looks like some sections of ancient Rome were often places for riots. Probably not the houses of the rich and famous though as they could afford to hire guards of different kinds and/or bribe some Roman Army official.

Silicon Valley, Hollywood & big money folks have armed body guards & big gated walls with every kind of security imaginable so they feel really free to encourage dissonance and riots. They aren’t going to suffer, no matter what. They are a BIG part of the problem.

If they can keep all of us lemmings arguing with each other long enough, guess who will grab all the power?

Once a very rich & powerful friend of mine said: “the rich don’t care which party wins. They OWN both of them. They enjoy that the citizens continue to Fight each other as if it matters. But if the citizens ever demand to be represented by an outsider, all heck will break loose.”

That pretty much sums up where we are right now.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That's one NRA rationalization. They are just profiting off of male testosterone and bias. There are 10 other talking point rationalizations that someone will probably list. Bit, I appreciate that someone took the time to read and analyze my post. Thank you.

There is no rationalization there at all, just the unvarnished, inconvenient truth. Heroin, cocaine and all the other dangerous drugs are illegal to possess, use or sell but you can go into the smallest Podunk farm town in fly over country and buy these drugs. Why? Because there is a demand and organized crime will fill that demand. Prohibition proved that beyond a doubt and gave organized crime it's start on becoming what it is today. Prohibition really worked well! There was more alcohol consumption per capita during Prohibition than before and after. If a criminal wants a weapon there will be someone who will have one for sale illegally. It really doesn't take much common sense to understand that.

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by nututv

Lets not forget this is the same place that hosts a ton of conservative rallies. Care to imagine what a kook could do in the Sumter Square during one. It would mimic the Vegas deal easily.

Except it would not be one-sided.

There would be many happy returns.

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Semi-auto does NOT mean auto as in automatic firing. Semi-auto means auto LOADING after each trigger pull. The Las Vegas sniper used a quasi-LEGAL accessory to achieve his automatic firing. Hopefully, that cleared something up. Visit your NRA quasi-military recruitment web page for further clarification.

I think you mean you were told/read that The Las Vegas shooter …

Some of us are skeptical about such things (for VERY good reason) and, thus, do not believe everything we're told/ "fed". Also, "honorable Mention" award on your attempt to disparage the NRA, whom many Americans believe does a decent job of protecting the Second Amendment from people who share your reverence for it. It's in the Bill of Rights, you know

P.S. I'm a lifetime NRA member but often feel the organization is too compromising; I'd rather put my chips on GOA

Consider: all that firepower the "lone" Vegas shooter supposedly had, all by his lonesome, but he had to use a bump stock … I have a bridge

Fred

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by nututv

Lets not forget this is the same place that hosts a ton of conservative rallies. Care to imagine what a kook could do in the Sumter Square during one. It would mimic the Vegas deal easily.

True that. Sort of what I said?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Hmmm...

Ever heard the story of the Boy who Cried Wolf?

All lives matter, and none more than another.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

There is no rationalization there at all, just the unvarnished, inconvenient truth. Heroin, cocaine and all the other dangerous drugs are illegal to possess, use or sell but you can go into the smallest Podunk farm town in fly over country and buy these drugs. Why? Because there is a demand and organized crime will fill that demand. Prohibition proved that beyond a doubt and gave organized crime it's start on becoming what it is today. Prohibition really worked well! There was more alcohol consumption per capita during Prohibition than before and after. If a criminal wants a weapon there will be someone who will have one for sale illegally. It really doesn't take much common sense to understand that.

What I understand is that ANY problem can be solved IF large resources ($) and expertise and time are devoted to it. That's why the US was 1st to the moon. (Note : in a time when the tax law did NOT favor the rich who stop it circulating by putting it in Swiss bank accounts). Today, with respect to the problem of auto-loading military-style rifles, IF--IF the rich profiteering gun manufacturers (that take your $ on their high margin m-style weapons) were to STOP manufacturing THOSE and the Police had the resources ($) to do BUY-BACKS it would WORK. Society would have to pony up the big bucks, YES. Don't forget that Police are the ones NOT killed by single-shot and bolt action (used by hunters). The Police who sat down and thought about it would LIKE the idea of those BUY-BACKS. Matter of fact they do NOW, but don't have enough $ to buy enough from the marginal criminals, who would gladly sell them and go back to being pick-pockets as...like maybe 1940 or so. PS...single shots and bolt are LOWER margin weapons.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ffresh

I think you mean you were told/read that The Las Vegas shooter …

Some of us are skeptical about such things (for VERY good reason) and, thus, do not believe everything we're told/ "fed". Also, "honorable Mention" award on your attempt to disparage the NRA, whom many Americans believe does a decent job of protecting the Second Amendment from people who share your reverence for it. It's in the Bill of Rights, you know

P.S. I'm a lifetime NRA member but often feel the organization is too compromising; I'd rather put my chips on GOA

Consider: all that firepower the "lone" Vegas shooter supposedly had, all by his lonesome, but he had to use a bump stock … I have a bridge

Fred

I wonder if I mentioned accessorization as in "bump-shocks". You can use a special trigger also. Or you can be good with a file.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by nututv

I consider myself to be rather well informed. It really surprised me the other day when my son told me tear gas isn't allowed in war due to the Geneva convention but police use it against the citizenry nearly daily.
I gave that a lot of thought, it's spooky.

I had to fact check to see if what you said was true. Yes, it seems so. However, it is very interesting that the Marine Corps trains recruits in the "gas chamber" with tear gas. We also had tear gas in Vietnam and used it. It was in the form of grenade rounds shot from a M79 grenade launcher. Right or wrong, it was used in combat. We also had White Phosphorus rounds, which are way more dangerous and wicked. Just saying.

[nututv]

Originally Posted by ALadysMom

There would be many happy returns.

After seeing/reading some of what I have I can only think of return fire.

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

Massachusetts and Hawaii are the 2 hardest states to get a gun period they alternate between the lowest murder rates by guns Florida is 19th makes you wonder

Nope, wonder no more.
Chicago is a gun-free city.
Last weekend there were over 100 people shot In Chicago from Friday night to Monday morning. If BLM then why don’t ALL black lives matter? Don’t the innocent black childrens’ lives matter who die in the crossfire too? They are just babies! (but don’t even get me started about THAT!) There’s barely a whisper about the carnage.

We are being duped. Played based on our sensitive, caring nature. Guilted into silent submission. The thugs are USING all of us.

If they can get the police defunded, demoralized, side-lined or (Better yet) eliminated, who will stand between the thugs & the citizens?

BLM is like an attractively decorated store window but there is actually no store inside. You still want to buy that beautiful stuff even though it’s not really in there.

Have you ever had a conversation with someone who has escaped a tyrannical government? There are plenty of those folks around since there are many governments that have slid into that abyss. I have talked to many. Not one of them wanted to go back into that situation. Most of them didn’t see it coming until it was too late.