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tvbound 09-22-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2008200)
White people are more common in the U.S.

Sexual predators have their own fantasies according to the true crime I watch. Some have to do with race and some do not.


I was very timid and insecure as a young woman but I knew enough to stay far away from over directive, bossy, harsh and cold men.

"White people are more common in the U.S."

I know you're smarter than to believe, that is the primary reason between the huge disparity of publicity regarding 'pretty, white women' - and indigenous or women of color.

Violence Against Black Women – Many Types, Far-reaching Effects - IWPR

"More than four in ten Black women experience physical violence from an intimate partner during their lifetimes. White women, Latinas, and Asian/Pacific Islander women report lower rates."


I too learned to avoid females who were cold, two-faced, manipulative or passive-aggressive, so I would say that we were both trained well - at a young age.

tvbound 09-22-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2008207)

Great to hear.

SkBlogW 09-22-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2008218)
"White people are more common in the U.S."

I know you're smarter than to believe, that is the primary reason between the huge disparity of publicity regarding 'pretty, white women' - and indigenous or women of color.

Violence Against Black Women – Many Types, Far-reaching Effects - IWPR

"More than four in ten Black women experience physical violence from an intimate partner during their lifetimes. White women, Latinas, and Asian/Pacific Islander women report lower rates."


I too learned to avoid females who were cold, two-faced, manipulative or passive-aggressive, so I would say that we were both trained well - at a young age.

So 40% of black woman experience violence from their partners. What % of these partners are of the same race as the woman?

tvbound 09-22-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SkBlogW (Post 2008222)
So 40% of black woman experience violence from their partners. What % of these partners are of the same race as the woman?

About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

Bill14564 09-22-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2008228)
About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

It does appear that all (or certainly most) of the missing person cases that hit national news are white women but how many have made it to the news? I can think of only two this year and none last year. With over 600,000 missing persons each year, there are a lot of cases that don't get on national news, including a large number of missing white women.

It would be interesting to look into why a particular case draws national attention. Perhaps it helps if the missing person is a young white female but there are a lot of young white females missing right now that aren't on national news.

graciegirl 09-22-2021 01:25 PM

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graciegirl 09-22-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2008218)
"White people are more common in the U.S."

I know you're smarter than to believe, that is the primary reason between the huge disparity of publicity regarding 'pretty, white women' - and indigenous or women of color.

Violence Against Black Women – Many Types, Far-reaching Effects - IWPR

"More than four in ten Black women experience physical violence from an intimate partner during their lifetimes. White women, Latinas, and Asian/Pacific Islander women report lower rates."


I too learned to avoid females who were cold, two-faced, manipulative or passive-aggressive, so I would say that we were both trained well - at a young age.


What I said was "There are more white people in the U.S.".

I have learned also to avoid cold, two faced, manipulative or bullying women as friends. I will not play games with either sex, nor will I be talked down to.

As for race and violence. I read the figures. I see the news. I wonder why.

SkBlogW 09-22-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2008228)
About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

Media attention not relevant. More important who are the abusers? You said 40% of black woman report abuse. What percentage of white woman report abuse? What race of men are most prone to abusing their partners?

Velvet 09-23-2021 06:41 PM

Looks like not only was he out of her league but he was stealing from the bank account.

JMintzer 09-23-2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2008080)
"It's not bait."

It's definitely "not bait," it is simply a fact. The 'young, pretty white women' get a lot more media/people attention, than women of color (or indigenous women) who are abducted and/or murdered. A lot of the scumbag perpetrators know this fact and often target young women of color - to carry out their heinous acts. One only has to ask themselves how many white women they have heard of who have been abducted and become big news - compared to minority women. :(

I asked you the same question about all of the white men who are killed by police, who are completely ignored by the media...

Without using Google, can you name one?

JMintzer 09-23-2021 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2008228)
About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

Where is it written that life is fair?

graciegirl 09-23-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2008228)
About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

I think you are making something racial that isn't. It isn't about race. It is a story that grabbed the public interest. People didn't MAKE it interesting, it was and is interesting. It wasn't "promoted" it was "clicked on".

I think it had a lot of elements to encourage interest. She was absolutely movie star beautiful and young. I had never heard of someone doing a "blog" about their transcontinental trip which I imagine gave her followers to begin with. Then the fact that HE returned home and did not say a word to her parents as to where she was, when they had been communicating with her daily was the plot twist. THEN he hired a lawyer. Curiouser and curiouser.

I remember following the cases of two other hugely followed murders in Florida in the past six years. One was about Markeith Loyd and the other was about the man who died in prison today, the father in law of the beautiful young mother whose body was dismembered and found on the farm of her husbands family. Markeith Loyd killed not only his pregnant wife but shot down a very popular female law officer who was very well liked in the community for many years. Then he lost his eye when he was finally arrested wearing her handcuffs.

The connection to what makes a story of true crime very interesting to the public is an interest or a connection to the public, not the race of the perp or the victim.

Ele201 09-24-2021 06:45 AM

I agree…
 
I did find myself wondering why the media jumped on this particular case of a young woman who went missing. Following the story is fine, but why was this front page news on so many media outlets for days? I mean no disrespect for her, but she’s not a celebrity, not someone well known etc.

And yes there were plenty of white women who went missing that were not given this kind of continuous coverage. I don’t think there’s a racial issue here.
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2008251)
It does appear that all (or certainly most) of the missing person cases that hit national news are white women but how many have made it to the news? I can think of only two this year and none last year. With over 600,000 missing persons each year, there are a lot of cases that don't get on national news, including a large number of missing white women.

It would be interesting to look into why a particular case draws national attention. Perhaps it helps if the missing person is a young white female but there are a lot of young white females missing right now that aren't on national news.


kathyspear 09-24-2021 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ele201 (Post 2008603)
I did find myself wondering why the media jumped on this particular case of a young woman who went missing. Following the story is fine, but why was this front page news on so many media outlets for days? I mean no disrespect for her, but she’s not a celebrity, not someone well known etc.

And yes there were plenty of white women who went missing that were not given this kind of continuous coverage. I don’t think there’s a racial issue here.

Frequently when someone goes missing they just ... go missing. Not a lot of details other than "s/he left abc and never showed up at xyz". In this current case, the couple were publicizing their journey by blogging and vlogging about it on the Internet. By the time her parents reported her missing it came out that the BF had driven back to FL in HER CAR without HER. So from the gitgo we had reason to believe he was involved and was apparently stupid enough to think he could show up at home in that van and NOT be suspected! We immediately have a bad guy to obsess over.

Because Gabby had that blog there are lots of photos and video clips of the two of them during their trip for the media to show over and over. And of course she was this adorable young girl, setting off an adventure with the love of her life (RETCH) ... only to have it end so badly. I think because of what we knew about them, people were strongly affected by the story. And we love having a bad guy to hate!

Just my thoughts.

kathy

Velvet 09-24-2021 12:02 PM

Yes, it seems like a good summary, Kathy, and to those of you who try to take the attention away from this young couple, you are trying to use this unfortunate situation to promote YOUR agenda, and it is NOT what this thread about. Start a new thread if you have an issue.

Taltarzac725 09-24-2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 2008704)
Frequently when someone goes missing they just ... go missing. Not a lot of details other than "s/he left abc and never showed up at xyz". In this current case, the couple were publicizing their journey by blogging and vlogging about it on the Internet. By the time her parents reported her missing it came out that the BF had driven back to FL in HER CAR without HER. So from the gitgo we had reason to believe he was involved and was apparently stupid enough to think he could show up at home in that van and NOT be suspected! We immediately have a bad guy to obsess over.

Because Gabby had that blog there are lots of photos and video clips of the two of them during their trip for the media to show over and over. And of course she was this adorable young girl, setting off an adventure with the love of her life (RETCH) ... only to have it end so badly. I think because of what we knew about them, people were strongly affected by the story. And we love having a bad guy to hate!

Just my thoughts.

kathy

Very well put!!!

News programs do need advertisers to pitch their products during commercials so they do tend to find stories that have a lot of human interest like this one. And it does attract viewers. Beautiful young women who uses social media a lot goes missing.

retiredguy123 09-25-2021 02:20 AM

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I can't help but wonder why law enforcement didn't invest a small amount of money to keep the boyfriend under surveillance. Now, they are spending many millions of dollars of taxpayer money searching for him. Is there any limit to how much money they are willing to spend on the search with apparently no accountability?

graciegirl 09-25-2021 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2008825)
Maybe I'm too cynical, but I can't help but wonder why law enforcement didn't invest a small amount of money to keep the boyfriend under surveillance. Now, they are spending many millions of dollars of taxpayer money searching for him. Is there any limit to how much money they are willing to spend on the search with apparently no accountability?

I looked it up. There are seventeen in the Northport police group.

At the beginning it did not seem as obvious as it does now.

retiredguy123 09-25-2021 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2008832)
I looked it up. There are seventeen in the Northport police group.

At the beginning it did not seem as obvious as it does now.

The guy was refusing to talk to the police long before he ran away. Why didn't the FBI keep track of where he was? Now, they are spending unlimited taxpayer funds to search for him. I don't get it.

skippy05 09-25-2021 06:30 AM

The amount of media coverage and FBI coverage and FL police coverage on this case is out of control. How many people are shot and killed in Chicago every single day and zero of this happens? To me the girl and the guy and their familes got what was coming, each in their own way. The kids were raised with no morals, no work ethic, and were living off the parents in a damn van in the driveway. The parents created "raised" them with a lack of good parenting over years and years of stupidity. These kids and their familes are perfect examples of what our Country is all about today with no end in sight. The only thing that matters to most young adults today is social media fame and doing as little as possible to do any real work. They've never heard of the gospel nor any of its teachings that builds character and any sense of morality. These news stories are perfect examples of this. Oh this poor "beautiful" young girl who was so wonderful and full of life. If the girl was a geek guy that weighed 350 pounds and was balding....this story would not even exist. The only thing that matter is this happened to someone who was young and beautiful. And while we are at it....let us assume the guy is a monster and isn't simply on the run because he knows even if he didn't cause this that he stands no chance in hell of this not ruining the remainder of his life. Perhaps he is a monster but there is also the chance he didn't do it and is on the run out of fear. The media and most people following this story could care less....ASSUME at all loss of reason that he is a monster and who cares what the truth really is.

graciegirl 09-25-2021 08:17 AM

I read where Laundrie used Petito's credit/debit card and they are charging him with Fraud.

Now I am beginning to think he is still alive after initially thinking he committed suicide.

I have to think that there are important details not yet heard.

What do you think happened when his parents took him away for several days in their camper? Where did they go? What did they do? How many kids do the Laundries have other than Brian and his older sister who has kids that Gabby wrote to?

Velvet 09-25-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by skippy05 (Post 2008852)
The amount of media coverage and FBI coverage and FL police coverage on this case is out of control. How many people are shot and killed in Chicago every single day and zero of this happens? To me the girl and the guy and their familes got what was coming, each in their own way. The kids were raised with no morals, no work ethic, and were living off the parents in a damn van in the driveway. The parents created "raised" them with a lack of good parenting over years and years of stupidity. These kids and their familes are perfect examples of what our Country is all about today with no end in sight. The only thing that matters to most young adults today is social media fame and doing as little as possible to do any real work. They've never heard of the gospel nor any of its teachings that builds character and any sense of morality. These news stories are perfect examples of this. Oh this poor "beautiful" young girl who was so wonderful and full of life. If the girl was a geek guy that weighed 350 pounds and was balding....this story would not even exist. The only thing that matter is this happened to someone who was young and beautiful. And while we are at it....let us assume the guy is a monster and isn't simply on the run because he knows even if he didn't cause this that he stands no chance in hell of this not ruining the remainder of his life. Perhaps he is a monster but there is also the chance he didn't do it and is on the run out of fear. The media and most people following this story could care less....ASSUME at all loss of reason that he is a monster and who cares what the truth really is.

Well you have a point. In a sense we are attracted to pleasant stuff, whether it is visual, smell or taste. That is why we buy art, we like to look at it, perfume we like to smell it, and we eat delicious food. People prefer enjoyable things in general. Of course there are individual preferences, like I only watch commercials which have animals in them.

Velvet 09-25-2021 08:36 AM

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Quickdraw 09-25-2021 01:52 PM

Mr. Laundrie not only has the right to remain silent, he appears to be one of the very few who actually have the ability to do so. I would guess that over 50% of the people currently in prison in America are there for one reason only, and it was their lack of the ability to remain silent.

graciegirl 09-25-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw (Post 2009043)
Mr. Laundrie not only has the right to remain silent, he appears to be one of the very few who actually have the ability to do so. I would guess that over 50% of the people currently in prison in America are there for one reason only, and it was their lack of the ability to remain silent.

Not to mention they did something terribly wrong that harmed someone awfully.

Just sayin'.

bagboy 09-25-2021 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy05 (Post 2008852)
The amount of media coverage and FBI coverage and FL police coverage on this case is out of control. How many people are shot and killed in Chicago every single day and zero of this happens? To me the girl and the guy and their familes got what was coming, each in their own way. The kids were raised with no morals, no work ethic, and were living off the parents in a damn van in the driveway. The parents created "raised" them with a lack of good parenting over years and years of stupidity. These kids and their familes are perfect examples of what our Country is all about today with no end in sight. The only thing that matters to most young adults today is social media fame and doing as little as possible to do any real work. They've never heard of the gospel nor any of its teachings that builds character and any sense of morality. These news stories are perfect examples of this. Oh this poor "beautiful" young girl who was so wonderful and full of life. If the girl was a geek guy that weighed 350 pounds and was balding....this story would not even exist. The only thing that matter is this happened to someone who was young and beautiful. And while we are at it....let us assume the guy is a monster and isn't simply on the run because he knows even if he didn't cause this that he stands no chance in hell of this not ruining the remainder of his life. Perhaps he is a monster but there is also the chance he didn't do it and is on the run out of fear. The media and most people following this story could care less....ASSUME at all loss of reason that he is a monster and who cares what the truth really is.

The girl got what's coming, in her own way. Did I misread something???

skippy05 09-25-2021 03:23 PM

no you didn't miss anything. she doesn't work a job and she contributes nothing to society. spends all of her time on youtube and twitter for a "living". chooses a man who does her harm for a boyfriend. chooses a man who can't even afford his own van. chooses a man who has no full-time job. Chooses a man who lives in his parent's driveway. cries like a baby over dirt in a van floor. drives all over the country having out-of-wedlock sex. Yes, she reap what she sow and suffered the consequences of all those decisions.

JMintzer 09-25-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy05 (Post 2009072)
no you didn't miss anything. she doesn't work a job and she contributes nothing to society. spends all of her time on youtube and twitter for a "living". chooses a man who does her harm for a boyfriend. chooses a man who can't even afford his own van. chooses a man who has no full-time job. Chooses a man who lives in his parent's driveway. cries like a baby over dirt in a van floor. drives all over the country having out-of-wedlock sex. Yes, she reap what she sow and suffered the consequences of all those decisions.

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Velvet 09-25-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 2009061)
The girl got what's coming, in her own way. Did I misread something???

You are the funniest!

Velvet 09-25-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy05 (Post 2009072)
no you didn't miss anything. she doesn't work a job and she contributes nothing to society. spends all of her time on youtube and twitter for a "living". chooses a man who does her harm for a boyfriend. chooses a man who can't even afford his own van. chooses a man who has no full-time job. Chooses a man who lives in his parent's driveway. cries like a baby over dirt in a van floor. drives all over the country having out-of-wedlock sex. Yes, she reap what she sow and suffered the consequences of all those decisions.

Ah, hind sight is 20/20. Our lost children, where were their parents? But given all those bad choices, she seemed truly happy for a little while….

Gulfcoast 09-25-2021 06:49 PM

Both Gabby and Brian quit their jobs to go on this trip. We really don't have a lot of details about their finances or how long they had both been working before the trip or how much money they had saved up for the trip. Gabby was hoping to get enough viewers her on her social media channels to earn an income that way. In the meantime, it does sound as though their parents were helping them.

Gabby was only 22 and should have had many more years ahead of her. Sadly, her life was cut short.

When I heard that Brian and his parents had gone silent and weren't talking to the police I knew that was a very bad sign. I think that most people did.

ML Smith 09-26-2021 11:58 AM

Gabby
 
I am trying to figure out why this particular case is national news?

tvbound 09-26-2021 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ML Smith (Post 2009497)
I am trying to figure out why this particular case is national news?

Missing white woman syndrome - Wikipedia

Gulfcoast 09-26-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ML Smith (Post 2009497)
I am trying to figure out why this particular case is national news?

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Gabby had been documenting her travels with her boyfriend and she had been in regular communication with her parents and that communication abruptly ended. Her boyfriend showed up at his parents' house with her van and presumably had been using her credit/bank accounts. Gabby at first was missing and her boyfriend wasn't talking and neither were his parents. Now Gabby's body has been found, the boyfriend is loose and either dead or on the run and more and more has been coming out about this young couple's final weeks together.

It's been an odd set of circumstances all around. Even Dog the Bounty Hunter was seen knocking on the door of the parents' house.

Velvet 09-26-2021 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ML Smith (Post 2009497)
I am trying to figure out why this particular case is national news?

Perhaps because like “Forensic Files” that was a hit on tv for the longest time, and “The First 48”, murder mysteries seem to catch our attention.

JMintzer 09-26-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2009526)

Keep bangin' that drum!

tvbound 09-26-2021 05:29 PM

Even if one were to hold their palms so tightly to their ears that no sound can penetrate, doesn't mean the drum isn't still banging.

JMintzer 09-26-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2009612)
Even if one were to hold their palms so tightly to their ears that no sound can penetrate, doesn't mean the drum isn't still banging.

Yet you completely ignore the fact that the very same media completely ignores it when the police shoot someone NOT of color...

How tight are you holding your palms to your ears?

tvbound 09-26-2021 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2009641)
Yet you completely ignore the fact that the very same media completely ignores it when the police shoot someone NOT of color...

How tight are you holding your palms to your ears?

Tell me how you have even the faintest clue as to what I pay attention to, or ignore, particularly since you are dead wrong - again? I care about anyone, who is unarmed, not a threat to anyone else and is shot/killed/injured by inept, biased or poorly trained LEO's. Especially those shot in the back, or with their hands up, which on % basis - happens to those of color more. I also strongly support the vast majority of good law enforcement people, who do a wonderful, often thankless job. Anyway, the question was asked why this case has received so much attention and I provided a link to the answer, which by a number of posts in this thread - has proved it to be correct. You can have the last words.

JMintzer 09-26-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2009649)
Tell me how you have even the faintest clue as to what I pay attention to, or ignore, particularly since you are dead wrong - again? I care about anyone, who is unarmed, not a threat to anyone else and is shot/killed/injured by inept, biased or poorly trained LEO's. Especially those shot in the back, or with their hands up, which on % basis - happens to those of color more. I also strongly support the vast majority of good law enforcement people, who do a wonderful, often thankless job. Anyway, the question was asked why this case has received so much attention and I provided a link to the answer, which by a number of posts in this thread - has proved it to be correct. You can have the last words.

Well, since I asked you a very specific question on a specific topic, several times, and you've yet to answer said question, one can only surmise you don't care about that topic...

Show me how I'm wrong...

And to your point. ONE guy was shot in the back, and the cop was prosecuted and found guilty. And who was shot "with their hands up"?

And since we're talking percentages, who commits the vast majority of murders, despite being a small percentage of the population?

Which percentage of the population has a much higher percentage of police contacts (most due to their neighbors/spouses calling said police)?

More police contacts, more chances of things going sideways...

And your Wiki link? Gimme a break...


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