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jerseyjoy 06-10-2020 06:53 AM

It reminded me of Princess Diana's funeral.

cmbrown915@gmail.com 06-10-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1780951)
A man was murdered on video in broad daylight for possibly passing a phony 20 bill. He was not currently in jail, there was no warrant for his arrest - he was a free man in a vehicle. He was then handcuffed and sat against a wall, after a struggle in the back seat of a police cruiser he was taken out of the car and laid on the ground where he then had a knee placed on his neck for 8 min and 46 sec until he died. That is murder at the hands of a corrupt, criminal cop who had many many complaints brought against him. But you want to talk about George Floyd's criminal record only... How interesting. I can appreciate you thought it was over the top and dramatic but this death was the straw that broke the camels back in this country and we may finally see some real change. Just another opinion.

Thanks for your clear and wise comment.

Byte1 06-10-2020 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smacquart (Post 1781077)
Yes! People please check out Chauvin’s police record before before condemning George Floyd.

Even though the officer's record may have something to do with answering questions about how heavy handed he is with suspects, that does not change or affect Floyd's criminality or his record. Floyd obviously "condemned" himself.

Byte1 06-10-2020 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1780982)
If the Special interest groups want to make a spectacle that's fine.

But for the media to cover it as though it was a dignitary of lofty proportions......was more than over the top.

Angel wings and halo. The ultimate symbol to top off the over the top-ness!!

Undeserved/unreal!

I am disappointed that FOX cable broadcasted the funeral of the thug. When I was flipping the channel for some entertainment to view, I hesitated on FOX thinking that some important politician had passed and was being honored. What a joke! Bet Capt Dorn's funeral will not be televised. I can understand when the liberal media makes a big deal out of this pathetic exploitation, but FOX? Unbelievable!

jbrown132 06-10-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1781021)
Some people say that funerals are for the living. I think that the focus and elaborateness of a funeral should reflect on the impact that a person's life had on the people he knew and interacted with while he was alive. But, I doubt that many of the people who attended and/or watched the funeral even knew George Floyd. So, in that sense, the funeral missed the mark.

Wonder you paid for it. May tell us a lot.

Ginpappas 06-10-2020 07:09 AM

Ok
 
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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1781119)
There is absolutely a video. A cop kneeled on his neck for over ten minutes and after he was lifeless, they joked about possibility killing him. The reason you haven’t seen the video before, is that no national news networks picked up the story, because it didn’t fit their narrative.
Dallas Police body cameras show moment Tony Timpa stopped breathing - YouTube

So I watched the video and yes, I'm outraged at the total lack of compassion and humanity from these police officers.

Bay Kid 06-10-2020 07:19 AM

I thought it was the funeral for President Kennedy. Only in America can a thug, druggy felon be treated like the leader of the world. Where will they put his statue? Will they will be naming schools after him?

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1780936)
While I understand that Mr. Floyd died at the hands of a reckless police officer, but the funeral today was way over the top " Drama "

Here you have an admitted career criminal, thug, bully, worthless parasite on society in general, was honored with basically a state funeral, complete with a horse drawn carriage . Followed by adoring followers.

Those who spoke glowing words you are absolutely no better than G. Floyd.

And for those who continue to , Mock, Ridicule, Injure , and yes Kill Our Law Enforcement Officers shame on you. You have no conscience.

Compare that with Officer David Dorn ( Retired) defending his life long friend property.

Officer David Dorn, God Bless You, May You Rest In Peace.

Shot Multiple times executed filmed on Facebook.

Drama? I guess you never attended many Irish Catholic funerals then.

ffresh 06-10-2020 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1780988)
When I see something on TV that I don't like...I just use a handy little device like this one.

You can buy them in lots of places...even from the interwebz.
:ho:

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WKcAAO...5~3/s-l640.jpg

Oh, thanks … which button do you press to eliminate expensive funerals for thugs, again? It's been a while since I've used one of these :ohdear:

Fred

Swoop 06-10-2020 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1781143)
So I watched the video and yes, I'm outraged at the total lack of compassion and humanity from these police officers.

So why didn’t that story make the national news? Why didn’t the national networks pick up that story? Because it doesn’t fit their narrative of racism & and disproportionate police brutality against blacks. Two things the media want to promote, because it gets them ratings. But if you take the time to look at the actual statistics you will see that it is a false narrative.

graciegirl 06-10-2020 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1780993)
But that has nothing to do with George Floyd's funeral. There was no looting and destruction at the funeral. And George Floyd didn't order any looting or destruction, he was a little too busy being dead at the time all that started, following his murder.

This topic, this thread: George Floyd's funeral

I often wonder how the pregnant woman who was robbed with the gun pointing at her stomach feels. I wonder what she would say? I wonder if she is still frightened? I would like to know more about what happened that day, but the archives online have been "cleaned". I could not even find George Floyd's mugshots.

It doesn't have anything to do with George Floyd's funeral as stated above, but he was honored as a hero and the truth is that no one would want their son or daughter to have four felonies and to serve time for each of them.

Certainly, ethical people can see that causing death during an arrest is a horrible thing, but I would like to see the tapes of exactly why the ruckus in the car and the other ones too blocked out. I wonder if we will ever know if he possibly did have intoxicants that were lethal. The knee on neck is used with justification, I think, on people who will not allow themselves to be restrained. Sometimes they continue fighting even with handcuffs. They struggle to their knees and kick and writhe. Especially those high on some drugs. I can't see that this incident was racist. The knee on neck is used with all those resisting arrest violently. It is used a lot and hasn't stopped the passage of air to the lungs or caused a person to stop breathing in thousands and thousands of usage. I am just trying to be fair but I know I will be viewed as racist. I hope I am not.

Juliebythesea 06-10-2020 07:30 AM

Thank you for your eloquent reply, I would not have been so nice. His criminal record means nothing, he was murdered by that policeman, period.
We must stop the needless killing of black and brown people, if we don't, what we see now will continue.

Guitarman1951 06-10-2020 07:32 AM

If they are actually stupid enough to de-fund the police, the murder and mayhem will result in many more being killed by soldiers as they try to get control back. Same will happen if they handcuff the police too much with restrictions. I really don't know why anyone would want to be a cop in this madness.

ColdNoMore 06-10-2020 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffresh (Post 1781154)
Oh, thanks … which button do you press to eliminate expensive funerals for thugs, again? It's been a while since I've used one of these :ohdear:

Fred


Any single one of them...that changes the channel of course. :ho:

It's hard to even comprehend the vitriol/anger/hatred/whining, coming from those that didn't pay a cent for the funeral...and could have easily avoided watching it. :oops:

Well, not TOTALLY incomprehensible...I guess.
:ohdear:

WesMan 06-10-2020 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1780936)
While I understand that Mr. Floyd died at the hands of a reckless police officer, but the funeral today was way over the top " Drama "

Here you have an admitted career criminal, thug, bully, worthless parasite on society in general, was honored with basically a state funeral, complete with a horse drawn carriage . Followed by adoring followers.

Those who spoke glowing words you are absolutely no better than G. Floyd.

And for those who continue to , Mock, Ridicule, Injure , and yes Kill Our Law Enforcement Officers shame on you. You have no conscience.

Compare that with Officer David Dorn ( Retired) defending his life long friend property.

Officer David Dorn, God Bless You, May You Rest In Peace.

Shot Multiple times executed filmed on Facebook.

Agree!!!!!!!!!

Cheiro 06-10-2020 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1780951)
A man was murdered on video in broad daylight for possibly passing a phony 20 bill. He was not currently in jail, there was no warrant for his arrest - he was a free man in a vehicle. He was then handcuffed and sat against a wall, after a struggle in the back seat of a police cruiser he was taken out of the car and laid on the ground where he then had a knee placed on his neck for 8 min and 46 sec until he died. That is murder at the hands of a corrupt, criminal cop who had many many complaints brought against him. But you want to talk about George Floyd's criminal record only... How interesting. I can appreciate you thought it was over the top and dramatic but this death was the straw that broke the camels back in this country and we may finally see some real change. Just another opinion.

Here, Here!! Elequent reply and a great synopsys of the event. Congratulations.
It is only unfortunate that those who become upset at a White death, cannot seem to bring themselves to be equally so over a Black death.
All deaths are tragic.

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by njkonczal@gmail.com (Post 1781087)
What’s on my mind?

If Floyd hadn’t received a plea deal only serving 5 years in prison (2009) for a first degree felony (normally 20 year sentence), he would still be “in prison”, STILL ALIVE AND ALL THE MAYHEM THAN ENSUED FROM HIS CHOICE TO HAND A COUNTERFEIT BILL TO A STORE OWNER WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!

If the British had just controlled the Colonist a little better, or the Colonist had peacefully protested we'd still be living in British territory.

UpNorth 06-10-2020 07:57 AM

Floyd didn't deserve to die in the way he did, and neither did he deserve the adoration and funeral that he got. A made for media even that proves Black Lies Matter. Shame on our leaders for kneeling down and refusing to take a stand against this political nonsense.

CWGUY 06-10-2020 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1781143)
So I watched the video and yes, I'm outraged at the total lack of compassion and humanity from these police officers.

:ohdear: You're a little late.....it happened last year. What the hell let's go out today and express our outrage. I could use a new pair of sneakers..... maybe you need a new T.V. :rolleyes:

ColdNoMore 06-10-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781187)
If the British had just controlled the Colonist a little better, or the Colonist had peacefully protested we'd still be living in British territory.

TRUTH! :thumbup:

allsport 06-10-2020 08:12 AM

Your lack of sensitivity to funerals in the black community is showing. If you had ever attended one, you would know that this one was much like every other one in the community. You also obviously did not know that the man killed and the man that murdered him were both employed by the same nightclub as security and did not get along in that setting. Floyd objected to Chauvin's aggressive tactics. Murder 1 could be argued. Floyd had some issues with drugs and crime but had turned his life in a better direction until this incident.

Topspinmo 06-10-2020 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1780988)
When I see something on TV that I don't like...I just use a handy little device like this one.

You can buy them in lots of places...even from the interwebz.
:ho:

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WKcAAO...5~3/s-l640.jpg

when I read post I don't like I just ignore it. Try it sometimes. :popcorn:

Rich42 06-10-2020 08:17 AM

And how did that "poor" family pay for that extravagant GOLD coffin?

Dust Bunny 06-10-2020 08:20 AM

Defunding he police is not he solution. ANARCHY will follow and IS NO SOLUTION AT ALL.

billethkid 06-10-2020 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich42 (Post 1781216)
And how did that "poor" family pay for that extravagant GOLD coffin?

I was wondering when this would come up.

I would be interested to see the final tab for the entire funeral and who paid for it.

A good follow the money project.

Hogfan55 06-10-2020 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1781016)
With all this over the top reaction from the media, continued protest and destruction of property, and the farce of practically a state funeral for George Floyd.
I would hazard a guess, that rather than unite, it is driving a bigger wedge between the racial and political divide in the US. and by continuing, the protest is defeating its own objective.
One only has to read on this board the distance of opinion between the posters to see how wide that divide is, if reflected across the whole country.

You are so right. Right after the killing of George Floyd I believe the public was 100% in agreement in condemnation of his killing. I saw not one person that supported the officer responsible and still don’t. Yet the reaction by looting and burning and the condemnation of all police has caused a wedge that will last a decade or more. Now even those that condemned Floyd’s killing have animosity toward the whole thing. Oh, and those that make their living off the decisiveness (Al Sharpton, Black Lives Matter, etc) have now received another decade in which they can shake down corporations with threats and boycotts if they don’t get what they want and unfortunately the corporations and sports leagues, etc will capitulate which just encourages more. If you give in to a bully you will never stop their demands.

graciegirl 06-10-2020 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1781211)
Your lack of sensitivity to funerals in the black community is showing. If you had ever attended one, you would know that this one was much like every other one in the community. You also obviously did not know that the man killed and the man that murdered him were both employed by the same nightclub as security and did not get along in that setting. Floyd objected to Chauvin's aggressive tactics. Murder 1 could be argued. Floyd had some issues with drugs and crime but had turned his life in a better direction until this incident.

Methamphetamine and Fentanyl was found during his autopsy by both physicians, the one for the state and the one for the family.

Can you link us to the interchange between Floyd and Chauvin at the nightclub where they were both employed? I can't find a trace of that. It must have been removed from on line sources for some reason.

rlcooper70 06-10-2020 08:33 AM

I read this thread with aplomb ... because the character of the dead man is not relevant to the discussion of how we as a society should view this situation. The police are not the problem. And yet I hope the policies of the police forces can be the solution. I read that this technique of subduing a man was used 244 times in Minneapolis over the past three years (with 16 deaths). Perhaps there is another technique ... other than kneeling on a handcuffed man's neck until he passes out. I hope so.

coffeebean 06-10-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1781062)
Yep, why not "honor" all career violent criminals? Why not portray all of them with wings and a halo? Disgusting!
There is no excuse for the excessive force used, but all George had to do was COMPLY WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS OF LEOs, as we all are required BY LAW to do.

Why wasn't Rodney King, or Michael Brown, or Eric Garner given the same "honor". Why wasn't there talk of defunding and dismantling police force at those times?

But for all those who are happy with the way this criminal was "honored" with an elaborate funeral, just ask yourself just WHO PAID FOR IT? Probably the same people who paid to bus in "peaceful protesters" to the riots and looting

Boxing legend Floyd Mayweather paid for George Floyd's funeral.

Boxing legend Floyd Mayweather is paying for George Floyd's funeral - CBS News

BTW.....have you read George Floyd's autopsy (not the one done by the families request)? I haven't read the entire report but hubby read to me the "interesting" parts.

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Juliebythesea (Post 1781163)
Thank you for your eloquent reply, I would not have been so nice. His criminal record means nothing, he was murdered by that policeman, period.
We must stop the needless killing of black and brown people, if we don't, what we see now will continue.

And we need to address systematic racism. I am a classic example of white privilege. Poor white trouble maker growing up to a single mom. Running on the streets of South Jersey, police turned a blind eye too many times, instead moving on to the black neighborhood to make a collar because that's what all the white people wanted to hear that we were keeping those reckless trouble maker blacks in line. It's horrible and it's true, the system is absolutely designed to suppress the black people. Discrimination is real, I've witnessed white people not hire a more qualified candidate because of his/her skin color, or pick the white candidate because he was someone's friend. And this wasn't some local mom and pop company I'm talking US Government hiring. We have a systematic racism problem in the US that needs to be addressed.

I'm actually glad the show COPS has been taken off the air, I hope LIVE PD follows, as these shows perpetuate the problem of systematic racism.

John_W 06-10-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1781150)
I thought it was the funeral for President Kennedy. Only in America can a thug, druggy felon be treated like the leader of the world. Where will they put his statue? Will they will be naming schools after him?

I'm wondering the same thing, where will they build the George Floyd statue. Probably have him wearing a suit and tie with a briefcase in his hand or maybe even better, riding a horse in military uniform. Pointing out toward a new horizon. I'm sure Oprah will pay for it, or the mayor of minneapolis will have the taxpayers there pay for it. Then we'll have a national holiday every year in June on a monday, George Floyd Day.

https://m.hindustantimes.com/rf/imag...241376e8f9.jpg

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1781150)
I thought it was the funeral for President Kennedy. Only in America can a thug, druggy felon be treated like the leader of the world. Where will they put his statue? Will they will be naming schools after him?

Seems "Thug" is the word of the day, hmmm wonder where got started. You can always tell who watches Fox Faux News.

Swoop 06-10-2020 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781242)
And we need to address systematic racism. I am a classic example of white privilege. Poor white trouble maker growing up to a single mom. Running on the streets of South Jersey, police turned a blind eye too many times, instead moving on to the black neighborhood to make a collar because that's what all the white people wanted to hear that we were keeping those reckless trouble maker blacks in line. It's horrible and it's true, the system is absolutely designed to suppress the black people. Discrimination is real, I've witnessed white people not hire a more qualified candidate because of his/her skin color, or pick the white candidate because he was someone's friend. And this wasn't some local mom and pop company I'm talking US Government hiring. We have a systematic racism problem in the US that needs to be addressed.

I'm actually glad the show COPS has been taken off the air, I hope LIVE PD follows, as these shows perpetuate the problem of systematic racism.

Back up your post with actual facts. Let’s see the statistics that support your narrative.

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dust Bunny (Post 1781221)
Defunding he police is not he solution. ANARCHY will follow and IS NO SOLUTION AT ALL.

I think everyone agrees the Police need to be REFORMED and DEMILITARIZED and not DEFUNDED, so glad to have your attention on this subject now, let move forward and take action to make these reforms to eliminate systematic racism.

RedChariot 06-10-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1781016)
With all this over the top reaction from the media, continued protest and destruction of property, and the farce of practically a state funeral for George Floyd.
I would hazard a guess, that rather than unite, it is driving a bigger wedge between the racial and political divide in the US. and by continuing, the protest is defeating its own objective.
One only has to read on this board the distance of opinion between the posters to see how wide that divide is, if reflected across the whole country.

People don't like things being shoved down their throat. Multi city funerals. Final mile in a horse drawn carriage. Over the top for sure. That does not negate the horror of his death. But saying this man that has committed some despicable acts , "changed the world " is pandering to a select group and leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1781248)
Back up your post with actual facts. Let’s see the statistics that support your narrative.

Open a web browser and go to the Southern Poverty Law Center as a start

newbie1758 06-10-2020 09:04 AM

I agree. You stated it well.

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 1781255)
People don't like things being shoved down their throat. Multi city funerals. Final mile in a horse drawn carriage. Over the top for sure. That does not negate the horror of his death. But saying this man that has committed some despicable acts , "changed the world " is pandering to a select group and leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

Agreed! Somewhere in this thread someone stated something to the effect "I can't believe they showed this over the top funeral on Fox News, how dare Fox News for airing it" or something like that. Well that person needs to understand that you were being manipulated by Fox News for the exact purpose your here making these comments. Fox News knew it would absolutely drive their viewers to anger, especially when they run a ticket below the video saying something like "thug and felon gets princess Diana funeral" or whatever other nonsense to get people fired up.

Swoop 06-10-2020 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781259)
Open a web browser and go to the Southern Poverty Law Center as a start

List them please. Not the website of some ultra left hate group that has plenty of problems of its own...

“ The SPLC has its own troubles
These shameful secrets are no longer hidden in shadows. The New York Times, Politico, NPR and a host of other mainstream publications are reporting on the corruption and widening credibility gap. The SPLC dismissed its co-founder in March, and its president has resigned amidst numerous claims of sexual harassment, gender discrimination and racism within the organization — a parade of disgraces that vividly force the conclusion: The SPLC is hollow, rotten and failing at the very virtues it pretends to celebrate.”

billethkid 06-10-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781269)
Agreed! Somewhere in this thread someone stated something to the effect "I can't believe they showed this over the top funeral on Fox News, how dare Fox News for airing it" or something like that. Well that person needs to understand that you were being manipulated by Fox News for the exact purpose your here making these comments. Fox News knew it would absolutely drive their viewers to anger, especially when they run a ticket below the video saying something like "thug and felon gets princess Diana funeral" or whatever other nonsense to get people fired up.

OR.........they are presenting it the way most people think/feel!?!?


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