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graciegirl 06-10-2020 02:18 PM

Prior to being The Police chief of Minneapolis, in his job for three years, Arradondo sued the department for unfair racial treatment and together with three other officers won 740,000 dollars. Before being police chief he was head of "the Internal Affairs Unit responsible for investigation of allegations of officer misconduct".

Here is what Wikipedia says about him;

Medaria Arradondo - Wikipedia

jimjamuser 06-10-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1781303)
Everyone knows that once a suspect is on the ground and his hands are cuffed behind his back then he is restrained and the knee to the neck is unnecessary because there is nothing he can do and the police that are restraining him are no longer in any danger. Isn't that true? Watch this video which we've never seen on TV.

Handcuffed Man Kicks New York City Police Officer Onto Subway Tracks During Arrest - YouTube

If a train was coming, instead of suffering some broken bones, she would not be here today but I'm sure we would not have heard anything about it.

4 Policemen on him for about 8 min is overkill.

jimjamuser 06-10-2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogfan55 (Post 1781230)
You are so right. Right after the killing of George Floyd I believe the public was 100% in agreement in condemnation of his killing. I saw not one person that supported the officer responsible and still don’t. Yet the reaction by looting and burning and the condemnation of all police has caused a wedge that will last a decade or more. Now even those that condemned Floyd’s killing have animosity toward the whole thing. Oh, and those that make their living off the decisiveness (Al Sharpton, Black Lives Matter, etc) have now received another decade in which they can shake down corporations with threats and boycotts if they don’t get what they want and unfortunately the corporations and sports leagues, etc will capitulate which just encourages more. If you give in to a bully you will never stop their demands.

Looting is always Bad. Can negate the strength of a lawful, peaceful protest.

dewilson58 06-10-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1781498)
Looting is always Bad. Can negate the strength of a lawful, peaceful protest.


Can & Did.

600th Photo Sq 06-10-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1781481)
Prior to being The Police chief of Minneapolis, in his job for three years, Arradondo sued the department for unfair racial treatment and together with three other officers won 740,000 dollars. Before being police chief he was head of "the Internal Affairs Unit responsible for investigation of allegations of officer misconduct".

Here is what Wikipedia says about him;

Medaria Arradondo - Wikipedia

I'm betting he lives in a " Upper Class " neighborhood.

ColdNoMore 06-10-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1781498)
Looting is always Bad. Can negate the strength of a lawful, peaceful protest.

Without a doubt, looting/fires/violence are abhorrent...and strong action should be taken against those criminal acts.

They also, unfortunately and if even done only by a small % of the overall number of protestors, gives an excuse/cover to take away the focus on what should be addressed as the root problem...and is used by some (you know who you are) to basically say "see, we told you so...that's just the way they are." :ohdear:

Maybe, just maybe though, this will be the straw that broke the camel's back...and a lot of good will eventually come out of it.

Swoop 06-10-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1781510)
Without a doubt, looting/fires/violence are abhorrent...and strong action should be taken against those criminal acts.

They also, unfortunately and if even done only by a small % of the overall number of protestors, gives an excuse/cover to take away the focus on what should be addressed as the root problem...and is used by some (you know who you are) to basically say "see, we told you so...that's just the way they are." :ohdear:

Maybe, just maybe though, this will be the straw that broke the camel's back...and a lot of good will eventually come out of it.

We barely got finished cleaning up following the Tony Timpa rioting and looting and now this.

Oh, wait...

claricecolin 06-10-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1781477)
I find it uncommon that many of the attendees didn't even know George Floyd. The person who paid for the funeral had never even met him. Funerals that I have attended never lasted more than a hour or so. And, the eulogy was delivered by a close friend or relative, or someone who at least knew the deceased, not a national controversal figure. This was not a common funeral.

Again, that is your experience. I am offering a different perspective.

donassaid 06-10-2020 03:21 PM

Selective outrage. How about the 48 black men killed by black men the last 2 weeks in Chicago. Do "those black lives matter"? And what about white perps killed by black cops? More white men die at the hands of police than black men even though more black men are armed. Funny I don't recall any white criminal being memorialized and lionized by the media and not by any "White Lives Matter" groups and certainly don't remember any killing, looting, burning or destruction of private property in the aftermath. No, these are strictly responses of Antifa, BLM, the crooked News Media and leftists.

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1781509)
I'm betting he lives in a " Upper Class " neighborhood.

See, now that just sounds racist. Black folks can't live in nice neighborhoods.

EdFNJ 06-10-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 1781441)
I think this whole deal is staged ,not his death but all protests and phony outrage ,and "Black Lives Matter" scam

/// Never mind, it's just not worth it.

wisbad1 06-10-2020 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1780936)
While I understand that Mr. Floyd died at the hands of a reckless police officer, but the funeral today was way over the top " Drama "

Here you have an admitted career criminal, thug, bully, worthless parasite on society in general, was honored with basically a state funeral, complete with a horse drawn carriage . Followed by adoring followers.

Those who spoke glowing words you are absolutely no better than G. Floyd.

And for those who continue to , Mock, Ridicule, Injure , and yes Kill Our Law Enforcement Officers shame on you. You have no conscience.

Compare that with Officer David Dorn ( Retired) defending his life long friend property.

Officer David Dorn, God Bless You, May You Rest In Peace.

Shot Multiple times executed filmed on Facebook.

They put angel wings and a halo on his picture? Really don’t think he went up.

wisbad1 06-10-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1780951)
A man was murdered on video in broad daylight for possibly passing a phony 20 bill. He was not currently in jail, there was no warrant for his arrest - he was a free man in a vehicle. He was then handcuffed and sat against a wall, after a struggle in the back seat of a police cruiser he was taken out of the car and laid on the ground where he then had a knee placed on his neck for 8 min and 46 sec until he died. That is murder at the hands of a corrupt, criminal cop who had many many complaints brought against him. But you want to talk about George Floyd's criminal record only... How interesting. I can appreciate you thought it was over the top and dramatic but this death was the straw that broke the camels back in this country and we may finally see some real change. Just another opinion.

He left Texas cause he had two strikes, one more life in prison. My hero? No

Topspinmo 06-10-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginpappas (Post 1780951)
A man was murdered on video in broad daylight for possibly passing a phony 20 bill. He was not currently in jail, there was no warrant for his arrest - he was a free man in a vehicle. He was then handcuffed and sat against a wall, after a struggle in the back seat of a police cruiser he was taken out of the car and laid on the ground where he then had a knee placed on his neck for 8 min and 46 sec until he died. That is murder at the hands of a corrupt, criminal cop who had many many complaints brought against him. But you want to talk about George Floyd's criminal record only... How interesting. I can appreciate you thought it was over the top and dramatic but this death was the straw that broke the camels back in this country and we may finally see some real change. Just another opinion.

Well, he was committing crime? Just saying.

Topspinmo 06-10-2020 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781538)
See, now that just sounds racist. Black folks can't live in nice neighborhoods.

Need to get out more often.

Topspinmo 06-10-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1781510)
Without a doubt, looting/fires/violence are abhorrent...and strong action should be taken against those criminal acts.

They also, unfortunately and if even done only by a small % of the overall number of protestors, gives an excuse/cover to take away the focus on what should be addressed as the root problem...and is used by some (you know who you are) to basically say "see, we told you so...that's just the way they are." :ohdear:

Maybe, just maybe though, this will be the straw that broke the camel's back...and a lot of good will eventually come out of it.

Yep, millions I’d damage and theft small %.

Topspinmo 06-10-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimlambert (Post 1781430)
The worst is yet to come. Many many months from now when the policemens trials are held, if all four of them don’t get hung from the neck the “protesters” will start right back up. And there’s a very good chance a lot of the charges will be reduced or dropped.

Even if they get hung Or as the trial politicized still riot, Xmas right around corner.

Topspinmo 06-10-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781269)
Agreed! Somewhere in this thread someone stated something to the effect "I can't believe they showed this over the top funeral on Fox News, how dare Fox News for airing it" or something like that. Well that person needs to understand that you were being manipulated by Fox News for the exact purpose your here making these comments. Fox News knew it would absolutely drive their viewers to anger, especially when they run a ticket below the video saying something like "thug and felon gets princess Diana funeral" or whatever other nonsense to get people fired up.

and CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSMBC, WP, NYT, NPR don’t :1rotfl:

Topspinmo 06-10-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781153)
Drama? I guess you never attended many Irish Catholic funerals then.

Or career politician carpetbagger.

Red Rose 06-10-2020 04:33 PM

The biggest problem is how to get the looters, drug dealers and murderers to the table. They have to change also if we all expect positive change.

Topspinmo 06-10-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1781211)
Your lack of sensitivity to funerals in the black community is showing. If you had ever attended one, you would know that this one was much like every other one in the community. You also obviously did not know that the man killed and the man that murdered him were both employed by the same nightclub as security and did not get along in that setting. Floyd objected to Chauvin's aggressive tactics. Murder 1 could be argued. Floyd had some issues with drugs and crime but had turned his life in a better direction until this incident.


By trying to pass counterfeit money. Which late time I heard was against law.

600th Photo Sq 06-10-2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781538)
See, now that just sounds racist. Black folks can't live in nice neighborhoods.

You obviously have never been to Atlanta. By the way the Police Chief has every angle covered $$$ wise.

IMO he is out for Number # 1.... Himself.

wisbad1 06-10-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1781211)
Your lack of sensitivity to funerals in the black community is showing. If you had ever attended one, you would know that this one was much like every other one in the community. You also obviously did not know that the man killed and the man that murdered him were both employed by the same nightclub as security and did not get along in that setting. Floyd objected to Chauvin's aggressive tactics. Murder 1 could be argued. Floyd had some issues with drugs and crime but had turned his life in a better direction until this incident.

Haha! Left Texas cause of the 3strike law. New hunting ground.

Scorpyo 06-10-2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1781486)
4 Policemen on him for about 8 min is overkill.

Sorry I must have missed that video. I thought only 1 cop was "on" him. Didn't know 4 were on him. In this case probably 2-3 minutes were too much and the cop deserves what he gets. Personally I doubt if the cop was a racist. He was a power hungry ego maniac who had no problem showing any and everyone how tough and powerful he was. He probably performed the same tactic on many other suspects (black, white, red, yellow and even a green ET), only none died. The only point I was making is that contrary to some opinions once a suspect has his hands handcuffed behind him and he's faced down on the ground does not equate to a completely restrained suspect and one that poses no harm.

wisbad1 06-10-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1781560)
Even if they get hung Or as the trial politicized still riot, Xmas right around corner.

Rioters can do Xmas looting

kcrazorbackfan 06-10-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 1781553)
They put angel wings and a halo on his picture? Really don’t think he went up.

I don’t think the Lord took him upstairs either. 😡

GoodLife 06-10-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1781510)
They also, unfortunately and if even done only by a small % of the overall number of protestors, gives an excuse/cover to take away the focus on what should be addressed as the root problem

Yes, kinda like the Police brutality problem is caused by a small percentage of overall police gives an excuse/cover to take away the focus on what should be addressed as the root problem of saving more black lives which can only be solved by focusing on black on black homicides which kills 1000s every year. :welcome:

Byte1 06-10-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheiro (Post 1781173)
Here, Here!! Elequent reply and a great synopsys of the event. Congratulations.
It is only unfortunate that those who become upset at a White death, cannot seem to bring themselves to be equally so over a Black death.
All deaths are tragic.

I don't know about any "white death." Perhaps you can point it out to me so that I can become upset. I am upset about retired Capt Dorn's needless death by the hand of a "THUG." I believe that Capt Dorn was black, but I was not focused on his race. The only reason I am "upset" with Floyd's death is because of all the loss it caused to decent people. Sorry if I do not mourn Floyd, but I really do not see his passing as being a loss. And I do not yet see where this is a racial incident. Perhaps after the investigation is complete, we will see. So far, the incident does favor or possibly favor a grudge between the killer and the killed.

Byte1 06-10-2020 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosemary May (Post 1781565)
The biggest problem is how to get the looters, drug dealers and murderers to the table. They have to change also if we all expect positive change.

I don't believe in coddling criminals and do not agree with negotiating or even trying to understand them..........unless understanding them means learning how to convict them for their crimes committed.

VillageLiberal 06-10-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1781676)
I don't believe in coddling criminals and do not agree with negotiating or even trying to understand them..........unless understanding them means learning how to convict them for their crimes committed.

Its wasn't that long ago when the British were saying something similar, "I don't believe in coddling these criminal colonists and don't agree with negotiating or evening trying to understand them .... unless understanding them means learning how to convict them for their treasonous crimes against the crown. How dare these colonist not peacefully protest, destroying valueable tea, burning british owned businesses, and injuring british citizens".

If the colonist had peacefully protested you'd be living in the British territory of America.

GoodLife 06-10-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageLiberal (Post 1781678)
and the Open Michigan, Open Pennsylvania, etc... protests where orchestrated by the KKK, Three Percenters, Proud Boys, and the Koch Brothers. I get the impression that you feel your White Privilege might be in jeopardy, I wouldn't be too worried about it.

Gosh were any people killed or buildings set on fire during those protests? I'm sure my teevee would have shown it.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-10-2020 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1781581)
Sorry I must have missed that video. I thought only 1 cop was "on" him. Didn't know 4 were on him. In this case probably 2-3 minutes were too much and the cop deserves what he gets. Personally I doubt if the cop was a racist. He was a power hungry ego maniac who had no problem showing any and everyone how tough and powerful he was. He probably performed the same tactic on many other suspects (black, white, red, yellow and even a green ET), only none died. The only point I was making is that contrary to some opinions once a suspect has his hands handcuffed behind him and he's faced down on the ground does not equate to a completely restrained suspect and one that poses no harm.

There were three on him. So yes, you definitely missed the video. There were more than one video. I don't know how many more but I saw two of them. One was taken from someone who was crossing the street and saw the OTHER Side of the police car where George Floyd was being pinned down by THREE police officers. He was flat on his stomach, handcuffed, unable to get up on his own even if he hadn't been pinned down. One cop was kneeling on the back of Floyd's legs. Another was kneeling on his spine. And Chauvin was kneeling on his neck.

This was AFTER he was already IN the back of the police car, he had ALREADY been handcuffed. They pulled him out and moved him to the curb, where he fell over.


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