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tsmall22204 08-05-2022 04:30 AM

It was not poor judgement, she did not pack it by mistake. If we bring her home, she should be made to serve her sentence here in the US.

La lamy 08-05-2022 04:59 AM

She deserved to pay a price for bringing drugs into Russia and lying to the court, but 9 years is crazy. It's not as if she was bringing a bunch to sell, it was obviously for personal use. Why should they care what she does to her own body? If it lead to a real crime, that I could understand, but 9 years in jail for a personal vape is insane IMO.

ValPal58 08-05-2022 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122489)
How long will she spend in jail?

How long should she spend in jail?

No sympathy. You need to know the rules of the countries you travel to before you travel. She could’ve gotten 10 years she only got 9. Entitlement should get you nowhere when you break the law. I have no sympathy for Americans that don’t love America.

daca55 08-05-2022 05:18 AM

Many countries have hard and fast rules concerning drugs which are far severe then the US and if you get caught you will pay the price. I know a guy who got jammed up in Scotland for having pot and he too got several years in prison. She was told not to bring any drugs to Russia and she did and got caught and now she is a pawn that they can use to get what they want. She didn’t like standing for our national anthem but now she will have no choice but to respect Russia’s anthem

me4vt 08-05-2022 05:58 AM

What’s the international law on trafficking? No biggie she took a knee whenever she could!! She only wanted to be American when it benefited her!

ThirdOfFive 08-05-2022 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2122607)
My favorite statement so far is that the "Russians do not tolerate and even encourage criminals like we do". Really

This is the country that invaded Ukraine, is killing innocent citizens on a daily basis and is committing war crimes as a result.

They hunt down and try to kill, and do kill, dissidents no matter where they are in the world.

This is a kangaroo court that results in conviction over 99% of the time. The same "legal" system also locked Paul Whelan for 16 years for "espionage". Pure nonsense.

So I guess everybody is OK with the Whelan conviction also. So let's here all the Griner haters tell us true justice was done for Whelan. Or is the Russian system only correct when the convicted person is an African American professional basketball who won two gold medals for the US in the Olympics?

Don't know as I agree with that.

There was never any argument over whether or not Griner broke the law. Her only "defense" was IGNORANCE of the law. And ignorance of the law, in Russia as here in America, is never an excuse to break it.

I doubt she'll serve the entire sentence. She'll get out, probably in a couple of years.

Eg_cruz 08-05-2022 06:00 AM

While I am not her fan, 9 years is over kill. It’s a vape pen for goodness sake.
No she didn’t get 9 years because she gay, nor because she black. She got 9 years because Russia is using her to show US they don’t care what US thinks.

What really gets me is her wife wants us to feel bad because she she to go to other countries to play to make up for not making enough money playing in the US because she only make $225,000 a year in US so it not her fault she she to go overseas to supplement their income.

Again, I get do the crime do the time but is 9 yrs doing the time or is it “Take that US”

Bay Kid 08-05-2022 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2122517)
The White House will spring her in return for the Merchant of Death

That would be terrible. Only a fool would make that deal.

WiscoGirl 08-05-2022 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 2122598)
Raw deal? She traveled to a country that enforces their laws. Remember when the USA used to do that! Here’s a person that continued to protest the “National Anthem” by keeling, yet she wants this Nation to bring here home. Her ignorance by bringing the drug, or stupidity by not considering that when she packed her luggage, will not be overlooked in many countries that choose to enforce their laws.

100% true! It's too bad we don't enforce our own here. But we understand why: the criminals are in charge of the prisons and the mentally ill are in charge of the streets. The police are in charge of nothing and they'll bow down to the criminal elements. We had to change our traditions, our history; a transformation has occurred in the past decade. The snake is here. It's past time to bite off its ugly head and feed it back to the Fire.

Sandy and Ed 08-05-2022 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2122594)
Although she exercised very poor judgment bringing that stuff to Russia, she is getting a really raw deal. That being said, it’s a very bad idea to exchange the merchant of death for her release. Doing that sends a strong message to Putin that he can keep snatching up American travelers and exchange them for his criminal thugs.

Agree. Another reason certain countries are not on my own favored nations to visit list.

Sandy and Ed 08-05-2022 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by WiscoGirl (Post 2122704)
100% true! It's too bad we don't enforce our own here. But we understand why: the criminals are in charge of the prisons and the mentally ill are in charge of the streets. The police are in charge of nothing and they'll bow down to the criminal elements. We had to change our traditions, our history; a transformation has occurred in the past decade. The snake is here. It's past time to bite off its ugly head and feed it back to the Fire.

Gotta love the poetry in this reply. Hit the mark!!

jparsoneau@aol.com 08-05-2022 06:15 AM

Cannabis in all forms is still illegal under federal law only state laws has medical marijuana and recreational there is no federal marijuana allowed in the United States

rsmurano 08-05-2022 06:19 AM

If you commit a crime in a foreign country you get what you deserve. How about that kid that got caught stealing in China or some other country and they caned him. The US tried to get him home before this happened but from what I remember, they ended up caning him.
Actually we should be much more aggressive in how we handle people that do crime, we should throw the book at them as the law states so we will start limiting the amount of crime we have these days. What happened yesterday in our state is a start

terenceanne 08-05-2022 06:28 AM

Supposedly hates America - so a good lesson is being learned - wonder if she will change her mind about the USA now.
Having said that the trial is political and nonsense - one or two years in a Russian jail would be a good wake up call.

Ronald Phillips 08-05-2022 06:32 AM

Brittney Griner
 
Jailed in Russia. Wonder what see feels like now to hear the good old US National Anthem played and wants to come begging for help. Now she now knows how great she has it living in the USA. For me let her spend the next 9 years thinking about it and come back and tell the others what see went through. Also point out when back how good they have it in the USA where what she did would of maybe been a $50 fine not 9 years

Joe C. 08-05-2022 06:37 AM

Stupid is, as stupid does. No sympathy here......
She can now be a role model for what not to do.
If weed, THC, etc. was still illegal here, maybe she wouldn't still be there.

Kelevision 08-05-2022 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2122554)
Well at least some good news today

You think it’s good news that a girl from America just got sentenced to 9 years in Russian prison?

Babubhat 08-05-2022 06:50 AM

Clearly didn’t watch midnight express movie

NoMo50 08-05-2022 06:53 AM

She disrespected the American flag, and did not want our national anthem played at her basketball games. Now, she is crying in her borscht begging the country she hates to bring her back. How hypocritical and disingenuous is that? Perhaps she should have spent some of her down time watching episodes of Locked Up Abroad.

Stu from NYC 08-05-2022 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2122745)
She disrespected the American flag, and did not want our national anthem played at her basketball games. Now, she is crying in her borscht begging the country she hates to bring her back. How hypocritical and disingenuous is that? Perhaps she should have spent some of her down time watching episodes of Locked Up Abroad.

Really hope she spend time there pondering her behavior and comes out a better person.

Not going to happen and do hope we do not exchange her.

jimkerr 08-05-2022 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2122745)
She disrespected the American flag, and did not want our national anthem played at her basketball games. Now, she is crying in her borscht begging the country she hates to bring her back. How hypocritical and disingenuous is that? Perhaps she should have spent some of her down time watching episodes of Locked Up Abroad.

Exactly. Now she can learn the Russian Anthem since she hated our National Anthem so much.

9 years is excessive but it’s hard to feel sorry for her. You don’t bring any form of a drug to a country like Russia.

HJBeck 08-05-2022 07:03 AM

Your right. Do the crime, do your time. None of this I didn’t know stuff.

Whitley 08-05-2022 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2122561)
She brought it from home - where she got it -legally-. She made a stupid mistake, but the mistake wasn't having it. The mistake was bringing it with her to Russia.

So you agree with her getting prison time then?

She knowingly broke Russian law, and now the US is pressured to release a terrorist who is responsible for many deaths in an attempt to get her free. She was not working on behalf of the USA (unless we just do not know about it).

MandoMan 08-05-2022 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2122594)
Although she exercised very poor judgment bringing that stuff to Russia, she is getting a really raw deal. That being said, it’s a very bad idea to exchange the merchant of death for her release. Doing that sends a strong message to Putin that he can keep snatching up American travelers and exchange them for his criminal thugs.

Yesterday, in a book I’m writing, I told about nearly being arrested on the train station platform in Novosibersk, USSR, for running when a cop tried to confiscate the film in my camera because I was taking a couple photos. Stupid, I know. I was riding the Trans-Siberian Express. I hid and got away with it. I could have ended up in a Siberian prison. Like her. It’s scary. But this is mostly political. It’s unlikely that a Russian would have been arrested for this or received this sentence, even though it could happen. Lots of people use drugs there.

Whitley 08-05-2022 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2122607)
My favorite statement so far is that the "Russians do not tolerate and even encourage criminals like we do". Really

This is the country that invaded Ukraine, is killing innocent citizens on a daily basis and is committing war crimes as a result.

They hunt down and try to kill, and do kill, dissidents no matter where they are in the world.

This is a kangaroo court that results in conviction over 99% of the time. The same "legal" system also locked Paul Whelan for 16 years for "espionage". Pure nonsense.

So I guess everybody is OK with the Whelan conviction also. So let's here all the Griner haters tell us true justice was done for Whelan. Or is the Russian system only correct when the convicted person is an African American professional basketball who won two gold medals for the US in the Olympics?


You should probably start a new thread for Whelan. This one is about that female (Though I have not asked for her pronouns)basketball player.

Greg L 08-05-2022 07:44 AM

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time

Stu from NYC 08-05-2022 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2122763)
Yesterday, in a book I’m writing, I told about nearly being arrested on the train station platform in Novosibersk, USSR, for running when a cop tried to confiscate the film in my camera because I was taking a couple photos. Stupid, I know. I was riding the Trans-Siberian Express. I hid and got away with it. I could have ended up in a Siberian prison. Like her. It’s scary. But this is mostly political. It’s unlikely that a Russian would have been arrested for this or received this sentence, even though it could happen. Lots of people use drugs there.

When you go to a foreign country and want to bring drugs with you best to know their policies first. Why in the world take a chance unless you think you are better than everyone else.

MrFlorida 08-05-2022 08:06 AM

Well I guess she realizes America wasn't so bad after all....

Bellavita 08-05-2022 08:29 AM

Speaking as a mother who raised 4 children. All I can say is if you have the perfect kid congratulations. If you said you do, you are lying.

What one of us would think a trade for our child would not be good? No matter what evil.

She was wrong, but 9 years? Really?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122489)
How long will she spend in jail?

How long should she spend in jail?


HRDave 08-05-2022 08:36 AM

Russian Justice
 
I love how she complained to the court that she wasn’t read her “rights “ 😂😂 Sweetie, you’re in Russia! You have no rights!
I bet the American National Anthem would sound good now! 😎

Moderator 08-05-2022 08:38 AM

We've had to remove several political remarks. Please stay on topic without making it political.

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Glennjy 08-05-2022 08:39 AM

My opinion, if she did kneel to the ground to the US Flag, she does not deserve any help from the US. Just my opinion.

airstreamingypsy 08-05-2022 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2122554)
Well at least some good news today

How is that good news?

MSGirl 08-05-2022 08:57 AM

Griner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2122572)
I do not believe she had the intent required. She had said she put those into her luggage by mistake. Brittney Griner situation explained: WNBA star sentenced to nine years in Russian prison - CBSSports.com

Regardless of intent or not, any American should not have been allowed to go to Russia during these difficult times. Russia should never have been on the board!

Luggage 08-05-2022 08:59 AM

Baretta said - do the crime _ do the time
 
she is GUILTY - PERIOD ...

Chuckndianne 08-05-2022 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122489)
How long will she spend in jail?

How long should she spend in jail?

How long she will spend in jail? That’s a political question. How long should she spend in jail? - 9 years.

Sherry8bal 08-05-2022 09:17 AM

Seems to me if she wasn't smart enough to know to NOT take drugs to another country, especially one like Russia, then she should pay the consequences. She "dised" her own country anyway so they shouldn't help her out now that's she's crying because she's in trouble. WE (the U.S.) should also NOT trade her for this dangerous terrorist that Russia wants back. That's like trading a million dollars for a penny - not a smart thing to do!

Bill14564 08-05-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2122811)
she is GUILTY - PERIOD ...

I'm impressed by your confidence in the Russian legal system, especially when dealing with Americans.

She was *found* guilty, no question about that.

SUENRAN 08-05-2022 09:29 AM

Who cares!
 
Another entitled elite. America hater, hope she enjoys her stay.

bp243 08-05-2022 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122489)
How long will she spend in jail?

How long should she spend in jail?

Would we determine this nine year sentence in the US? This is what life in a dictatorship is about! Anyone want to move there?


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