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Speedie 08-05-2022 09:41 AM

She chose to go to Russia. So she needs to follow their laws. Actually the US needs to enforce our drug laws and immigration laws. Other countries in the world do enforce their laws.

Do the crime, spend the time

Maybe she can kneel and protest America while in jail there

ex34449 08-05-2022 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122489)
How long will she spend in jail?

How long should she spend in jail?

1. Who cares.
2. Probably not long enough.

Keep her please!

ex34449 08-05-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 2122792)
She was wrong, but 9 years? Really?

After thinking about it I agree. 9 years isn't nearly long enough. This country has enough trash. We should be thanking Russia for hauling some of it away for us.

jhoffha 08-05-2022 10:32 AM

All this for the person who disrespects the US Flag. Kneels when patriots stand with respect. Maybe this will be a wakeup call to her, to value and respect the freedoms she enjoyed before entering Russa. I have little sympathy for all these far left leaning types.

With regards to the sentencing, 9 years is unjust. I suspect she will be traded of for the Russian arms dealer currently in US custody. When she returns to the states, I wonder if she will stand in reverence to the US Flag?

ex34449 08-05-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2122736)
You think it’s good news that a girl from America just got sentenced to 9 years in Russian prison?

Don't know about him but I sure as hell do. Let's see what this "Girl from America" thinks about us in 9 years (if we are still here).
Being a "Girl from America" doesn't make you right, it doesn't put you above anyone's laws, and in her case, it doesn't mean you automatically acquire some higher level of intelligence.

Taltarzac725 08-05-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ex34449 (Post 2122849)
Don't know about him but I sure as hell do. Let's see what this "Girl from America" thinks about us in 9 years (if we are still here).
Being a "Girl from America" doesn't make you right, it doesn't put you above anyone's laws, and in her case, it doesn't mean you automatically acquire some higher level of intelligence.

Law and order in Putin's Russia. Now that is an oxymoron.

Nellmack 08-05-2022 10:48 AM

Respones
 
Stand back and look at this situation.

This isn't about a vape pen or kneeling at the national anthem.

Russia invaded a sovereign country (Ukraine) and the strongest military country on the planet (USA) sided with Ukraine. Without endangering any of our military personnel we have successfully pumped billions of our tax dollars in defense of that country. I'm going to guess that everyone will agree that the USA is the leader of the "free world" and with that title comes the requirement that we believe everyone is free, period. That means we can protest if we believe something is wrong without retribution. We can look different, have different religious beliefs, vote for whoever we want without retribution. If we believe in the USA we must believe in the ability to be free even if someone is a different religion, different color or protests something that we believe otherwise. You can't say you believe in USA policy or that the USA is the greatest place on earth and pick and choose what USA policies you like. You might not like or agree with the protest but it's our right. The USA is the greatest place to live and the ability to protest without retribution makes it the greatest place to live. Kneeling at the national anthem bugs me but that's what makes the USA great. That's why everyone's trying to move here. Russia is using her as a pawn for our involvement in their war, plain and simple. She deserves the support of the US like any one our our sons or daughters would deserve. IMO

Taltarzac725 08-05-2022 10:50 AM

Well said.

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Originally Posted by Nellmack (Post 2122853)
Stand back and look at this situation.

This isn't about a vape pen or kneeling at the national anthem.

Russia invaded a sovereign country (Ukraine) and the strongest military country on the planet (USA) sided with Ukraine. Without endangering any of our military personnel we have successfully pumped billions of our tax dollars in defense of that country. I'm going to guess that everyone will agree that the USA is the leader of the "free world" and with that title comes the requirement that we believe everyone is free, period. That means we can protest if we believe something is wrong without retribution. We can look different, have different religious beliefs, vote for whoever we want without retribution. If we believe in the USA we must believe in the ability to be free even if someone is a different religion, different color or protests something that we believe otherwise. You can't say you believe in USA policy or that the USA is the greatest place on earth and pick and choose what USA policies you like. You might not like or agree with the protest but it's our right. The USA is the greatest place to live and the ability to protest without retribution makes it the greatest place to live. Kneeling at the national anthem bugs me but that's what makes the USA great. That's why everyone's trying to move here. Russia is using her as a pawn for our involvement in their war, plain and simple. She deserves the support of the US like any one our our sons or daughters would deserve. IMO


JSR22 08-05-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nellmack (Post 2122853)
Stand back and look at this situation.

This isn't about a vape pen or kneeling at the national anthem.

Russia invaded a sovereign country (Ukraine) and the strongest military country on the planet (USA) sided with Ukraine. Without endangering any of our military personnel we have successfully pumped billions of our tax dollars in defense of that country. I'm going to guess that everyone will agree that the USA is the leader of the "free world" and with that title comes the requirement that we believe everyone is free, period. That means we can protest if we believe something is wrong without retribution. We can look different, have different religious beliefs, vote for whoever we want without retribution. If we believe in the USA we must believe in the ability to be free even if someone is a different religion, different color or protests something that we believe otherwise. You can't say you believe in USA policy or that the USA is the greatest place on earth and pick and choose what USA policies you like. You might not like or agree with the protest but it's our right. The USA is the greatest place to live and the ability to protest without retribution makes it the greatest place to live. Kneeling at the national anthem bugs me but that's what makes the USA great. That's why everyone's trying to move here. Russia is using her as a pawn for our involvement in their war, plain and simple. She deserves the support of the US like any one our our sons or daughters would deserve. IMO

I totally agree. Hopefully, she will be home within a month.

ex34449 08-05-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2122851)
Law and order in Putin's Russia. Now that is an oxymoron.

Let her try the same in the mid east. She'd be buried to her neck and stoned. I don't know if you've noticed recently but law and order in any country has somewhat fallen off the wagon.

Siegfried 08-05-2022 10:51 AM

Poor brittney
 
Haven't been able to work up much sympathy for Brittney Griner's 9 year sentence for trying to smuggle Cannabis into Russia. Quite a number of our allies impose the death penalty for the same offense -- including Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, UAE, and elsewhere. China also has the death penalty for this.

In addition to the death penalty or life imprisonment in Singapore, you'll be subjected to a public caning. In Japan, you get 5 years for the first offense for weed possession. Even France gives you prison for weed possession. In Turkey, you'll get up to 24 years for weed possession. What did he expect might happen in Putin's Russia?

Do stupid things in a country run by a dictator who hates the United States, expect stupid things to happen to you. Then toss in the fact that he does this while Putin is invading Ukraine. Maybe he doesn't follow the news.

Kinda felt the same way about Otto Warmbier. What is an American student doing in North Korea in the first place? And if there, what did he expect might happen if he steals the dictator's propaganda poster from his hotel room and tries to smuggle it out of the country for a souvenir and as some kind of joke?

Predictably, the genocidal sociopath Communist dictator had him beaten to death. This is a country where people are shot on the spot for getting Covid. That's one way to stop the spread! In this country, the dictator had one of his generals strapped to a chair and executed him with an anti-aircraft missile for amusement.

The schools should be teaching decision-making skills instead of anti-America woke ideology. In most countries, the people have no rights.

The schools should be teaching kids to be grateful every day that they live in America. To have the great fortune to live in America is to win the lottery of life. And don't go acting up when you visit other countries, especially dictatorships and the Third World..

coconutmama 08-05-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nellmack (Post 2122853)
Stand back and look at this situation.

This isn't about a vape pen or kneeling at the national anthem.

Russia invaded a sovereign country (Ukraine) and the strongest military country on the planet (USA) sided with Ukraine. Without endangering any of our military personnel we have successfully pumped billions of our tax dollars in defense of that country. I'm going to guess that everyone will agree that the USA is the leader of the "free world" and with that title comes the requirement that we believe everyone is free, period. That means we can protest if we believe something is wrong without retribution. We can look different, have different religious beliefs, vote for whoever we want without retribution. If we believe in the USA we must believe in the ability to be free even if someone is a different religion, different color or protests something that we believe otherwise. You can't say you believe in USA policy or that the USA is the greatest place on earth and pick and choose what USA policies you like. You might not like or agree with the protest but it's our right. The USA is the greatest place to live and the ability to protest without retribution makes it the greatest place to live. Kneeling at the national anthem bugs me but that's what makes the USA great. That's why everyone's trying to move here. Russia is using her as a pawn for our involvement in their war, plain and simple. She deserves the support of the US like any one our our sons or daughters would deserve. IMO

Great post. Totally agree. Thanks

Taltarzac725 08-05-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ex34449 (Post 2122856)
Let her try the same in the mid east. She'd be buried to her neck and stoned. I don't know if you've noticed recently but law and order in any country has somewhat fallen off the wagon.

That hardly ever happens as far as know even in the Mid East.

Taltarzac725 08-05-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ex34449 (Post 2122856)
Let her try the same in the mid east. She'd be buried to her neck and stoned. I don't know if you've noticed recently but law and order in any country has somewhat fallen off the wagon.

Woman, 20, is sentenced to be stoned to death for adultery in Sudan | Daily Mail Online

I only see one stoning death sentences passed in the last decade. Like something out of the oldest books of The Bible.

ex34449 08-05-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2122862)
That hardly ever happens as far as know even in the Mid East.

We know very little about what happens in the middle east. It takes us a decade to find the worlds most wanted criminal/s and you think we know what happens in some village in the mountains somewhere?

ex34449 08-05-2022 11:16 AM

Sorry but I have little sympathy for someone, anyone that goes to another country and has their stupidity and/or ignorance turned into an international incident. And now we are considering trading a murderer for a ignorant pot head that dislikes our country to start out with. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. NOT!

Vikingjunior 08-05-2022 11:17 AM

Actually 10 years is the Russian sentence for such a crime. Crazy but she didn't get any extra time for being American.

Vikingjunior 08-05-2022 11:28 AM

According to CNN the reason for her having to play basketball in Russia is because of gender pay inequality. So if she got paid what the men get paid she wouldn't have to go to Russia and wouldn't have gotten arrested.
So that's it, gender pay inequality in sports is the real reason she is in a Russian prison.

I'm glad we cleared that up.

ThirdOfFive 08-05-2022 11:37 AM

If this is nothing else, it is a good lesson on how much trouble you can get into exercising the "entitlement" mentality in a country that doesn't respect it.

She did the crime. Nine years isn't excessive under Russian law.

That is what matters.

ex34449 08-05-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 2122872)
According to CNN the reason for her having to play basketball in Russia is because of gender pay inequality. So if she got paid what the men get paid she wouldn't have to go to Russia and wouldn't have gotten arrested.
So that's it, gender pay inequality in sports is the real reason she is in a Russian prison.

I'm glad we cleared that up.

haha. Bad career choice. She should have taken up bobsledding in Jamaica. She'd have a statue in Mobay by now.

ThirdOfFive 08-05-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ex34449 (Post 2122866)
We know very little about what happens in the middle east. It takes us a decade to find the worlds most wanted criminal/s and you think we know what happens in some village in the mountains somewhere?

I remember seeing a sign the first time I went to Thailand (quite a few years ago now), right outside Don Mueang International Airport. It was in Thai, but my wife translated it:

"If you bring illegal drugs into Thailand, we will shoot you".

Things have changed somewhat. You no longer get shot if you play around with illegal drugs in Thailand, but they WILL sentence you to quite a few years locked up as a guest of the Thai government. And it is hardly a resort. Anyone here watch the movie "Brokedown Palace"? Pretty realistic.

In light of that, nine years doesn't seem so bad.

Caymus 08-05-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 2122872)
According to CNN the reason for her having to play basketball in Russia is because of gender pay inequality. So if she got paid what the men get paid she wouldn't have to go to Russia and wouldn't have gotten arrested.
So that's it, gender pay inequality in sports is the real reason she is in a Russian prison.

I'm glad we cleared that up.

How did CNN explain the reason that American Men play(ed) basketball in Russia?

SHIBUMI 08-05-2022 12:09 PM

no war she goes free
 
The American government should seize all Russian owned business's and real estate in America and auction it off to Americans and deny any Russian citizen any ownership in America due to the taking over of the Ukraine. Turn about is fair play....like her or not she is just a pawn.......fair trial-russia get real.....russians have no business in ownership in America just like they dont want us over there.....so be it said, so it should be done...
and that includes the stock market...........if not we are all just hypocrites


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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2122884)
How did CNN explain the reason that American Men play(ed) basketball in Russia?


jimjamuser 08-05-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2122561)
She brought it from home - where she got it -legally-. She made a stupid mistake, but the mistake wasn't having it. The mistake was bringing it with her to Russia.

She has already spent TOO much time in prison. She was a favorite player of the Russian PEOPLE. She became a much-publicized PAWN used by the Russian Dictator to take a "cheap shot" at America for our military support for the Ukraine.

jimjamuser 08-05-2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2122567)
How foolish to take it to Russia. She deserves what she got

Let those who have NEVER made a stupid MISTAKE........throw the 1st STONE.

Caymus 08-05-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2122890)
The American government should seize all Russian owned business's and real estate in America and auction it off to Americans and deny any Russian citizen any ownership in America due to the taking over of the Ukraine. Turn about is fair play....like her or not she is just a pawn.......fair trial-russia get real.....russians have no business in ownership in America just like they dont want us over there.....so be it said, so it should be done...
and that includes the stock market...........if not we are all just hypocrites

The same when China decides to take over Taiwan????

jimjamuser 08-05-2022 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122592)
Do you really believe that it was a mistake? Putting something in your luggage is a conscious decision. I don’t think I have ever packed something by mistake but I have forgotten to pack some items. If I were the Russian judge, I would be upset that she lied to the court!

Some people in some situations (like being in a hurry to board a plane flight) make mistakes - everyone knows that. She might have left it in a pocket of her coat and been unaware of it. She is only guilty of being a famous American at the wrong time and the wrong place. It is a "cheap shot" at EVERY American by a Dictator that poisons his own people and now sends them to fight and die in a war that makes Russia poorer and weaker. Historically, Dictators only have brought destruction to their own people. Torturing Brittany Griner is one small step backward for Russia.

ex34449 08-05-2022 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2122893)
Let those who have NEVER made a stupid MISTAKE........throw the 1st STONE.

Everyone has made stupid mistakes. It's human. But to be from another country and take an illegal substance into said country is just a little beyond stupid don't you think? Seriously, I've smoked a lot of weed in my life and have been to at least a dozen other countries but guess what? I never took it with me nor did I ever buy any when I was out of country. To the contrary, I did everything I could do to be a wallflower. It's called common sense. Something she obviously had none of... or she thought she was above the countries law.

ex34449 08-05-2022 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2122903)
She is only guilty of being a famous American at the wrong time and the wrong place

A famous American (and a stupid one too) that had absolutely zero love for her country. America!

jimjamuser 08-05-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 2122602)
On the bright side, she gets to learn a new language.

True, but she will have to learn the language of being tortured in INHUMAN Russian prison conditions, which I could not wish on my worse enemy.

ex34449 08-05-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2122897)
The same when China decides to take over Taiwan????

Oh they've already decided. They just haven't taken any action yet.

jimjamuser 08-05-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2122607)
My favorite statement so far is that the "Russians do not tolerate and even encourage criminals like we do". Really

This is the country that invaded Ukraine, is killing innocent citizens on a daily basis and is committing war crimes as a result.

They hunt down and try to kill, and do kill, dissidents no matter where they are in the world.

This is a kangaroo court that results in conviction over 99% of the time. The same "legal" system also locked Paul Whelan for 16 years for "espionage". Pure nonsense.

So I guess everybody is OK with the Whelan conviction also. So let's here all the Griner haters tell us true justice was done for Whelan. Or is the Russian system only correct when the convicted person is an African American professional basketball who won two gold medals for the US in the Olympics?

100 % correct. Great post.

JayK! 08-05-2022 12:58 PM

Russian law should prevail.
 
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122489)
How long will she spend in jail?

How long should she spend in jail?

According to Russian Law, she has been found guilty and sentenced to nine years for transporting illegal items. Did she think she had immunity just because she is an NBA player??? I’m sure she was given a lengthy list of ‘What not to bring into a foreign country” from her team’s PR rep. Did she read it??? How stupid can she be??? The US government should stay out of it. It’s on her shoulders, not our nation’s. She just threw away her career. Too bad!!!

MrChipster 08-05-2022 01:19 PM

“ We wouldn't excuse a foreigner breaking our laws and we shouldn't expect a foreign country to excuse an American breaking their laws,”

WHAT!!!!!!

Have you taken a look at the southern border of the US being run over.

rrtjp 08-05-2022 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ex34449 (Post 2122907)
A famous American (and a stupid one too) that had absolutely zero love for her country. America!

What is she famous for, shooting a basketball, being gay or hating her country?
I never heard of her before this moronic incident she pulled.

rrtjp 08-05-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MrChipster (Post 2122926)
“ We wouldn't excuse a foreigner breaking our laws and we shouldn't expect a foreign country to excuse an American breaking their laws,”

WHAT!!!!!!

Have you taken a look at the southern border of the US being run over.

Exactly

jimjamuser 08-05-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2122689)
She deserved to pay a price for bringing drugs into Russia and lying to the court, but 9 years is crazy. It's not as if she was bringing a bunch to sell, it was obviously for personal use. Why should they care what she does to her own body? If it lead to a real crime, that I could understand, but 9 years in jail for a personal vape is insane IMO.

Several people here have stated that Ms. Griner was lying to the court. I can NOT be sure of that. If she said that she was NOT aware that the vape cartridge was in her luggage, that statement could be true OR false. Only Britany and God will EVER know for certain.

ex34449 08-05-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2122927)
What is she famous for, shooting a basketball, being gay or hating her country?

All of the above. I'd never heard of her either but she's famous now. lol

ex34449 08-05-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2122929)
Only Britany and God will EVER know for certain.

Well apparently he wasn't too wild about her either. = )

jimjamuser 08-05-2022 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ValPal58 (Post 2122690)
No sympathy. You need to know the rules of the countries you travel to before you travel. She could’ve gotten 10 years she only got 9. Entitlement should get you nowhere when you break the law. I have no sympathy for Americans that don’t love America.

She loved America enough to play for America in the Olympics. It is possible to for someone to "take a knee" to protest racism, which everyone knows exists........ and STILL love America.


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