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mlmarr 08-05-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122489)
How long will she spend in jail?

How long should she spend in jail?

for a very long time, she hates America, let's see how she likes it in a Russian prision .. or is she being used as an example. will be set free just before midterms and the joke thinks they did a great job of freeing her.. my thoughts

ex34449 08-05-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2122934)
She loved America enough to play for America in the Olympics. It is possible to for someone to "take a knee" to protest racism, which everyone knows exists........ and STILL love America.

Lets say you owned a company but one of your employees was bashing it as publicly as possible. Would you keep that employee on? She loved the money? Fame?, it's pretty obvious she didn't love the country.

bimmertl 08-05-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ex34449 (Post 2122868)
Sorry but I have little sympathy for someone, anyone that goes to another country and has there stupidity and/or ignorance turned into an international incident. And now we are considering trading a murderer for a ignorant pot head that dislikes our country to start out with. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. NOT!

"there" stupidity

ex34449 08-05-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2122940)
"there" stupidity

Yeah that was bad. Thanks for pointing it out. It's been corrected.

tophcfa 08-05-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2122934)
She loved America enough to play for America in the Olympics.

Or perhaps she was looking to increase her chances of landing some lucrative sponsors?

Eg_cruz 08-05-2022 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2122855)
I totally agree. Hopefully, she will be home within a month.

At what cost

ex34449 08-05-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eg_cruz (Post 2122943)
At what cost

Many of the same folks that want guns outlawed are happy with trading a gun runner for her. Some things you just can't make up. lol

brockli 08-05-2022 02:04 PM

Bet she’s happy that she doesn’t have to hear the USA National Anthem for 9 years.

jimjamuser 08-05-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2122762)
So you agree with her getting prison time then?

She knowingly broke Russian law, and now the US is pressured to release a terrorist who is responsible for many deaths in an attempt to get her free. She was not working on behalf of the USA (unless we just do not know about it).

I, for one, am not sure that "she KNOWINGLY broke Russian law". I believe that she testified that she was not AWARE that an illegal substance was in her suitcase. If that is true, then no one can ever be sure about the "knowingly" part of the story.

jimjamuser 08-05-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2122763)
Yesterday, in a book I’m writing, I told about nearly being arrested on the train station platform in Novosibersk, USSR, for running when a cop tried to confiscate the film in my camera because I was taking a couple photos. Stupid, I know. I was riding the Trans-Siberian Express. I hid and got away with it. I could have ended up in a Siberian prison. Like her. It’s scary. But this is mostly political. It’s unlikely that a Russian would have been arrested for this or received this sentence, even though it could happen. Lots of people use drugs there.

I bet that they do drugs - to keep their minds off how their leaders have siphoned off their country's wealth and made them into "a gas station masquerading as a country". They do NOT believe ANYTHING that the government and government TV tells them. I doubt that they EVEN have a middle class. At least Britany Griner gave their sad lives some form of entertainment through her basketball skills.

Stu from NYC 08-05-2022 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2122946)
I, for one, am not sure that "she KNOWINGLY broke Russian law". I believe that she testified that she was not AWARE that an illegal substance was in her suitcase. If that is true, then no one can ever be sure about the "knowingly" part of the story.

Sorry from what I have read she brought the pot into Russia and is now going to pay the price. She hates it in America maybe she can apply for Russian citizenship while in prison.

DaleDivine 08-05-2022 03:02 PM

:popcorn::popcorn::clap2:

gatman16 08-05-2022 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 2122598)
Raw deal? She traveled to a country that enforces their laws. Remember when the USA used to do that! Here’s a person that continued to protest the “National Anthem” by keeling, yet she wants this Nation to bring here home. Her ignorance by bringing the drug, or stupidity by not considering that when she packed her luggage, will not be overlooked in many countries that choose to enforce their laws.

I agree 100%. She disrespected our flag, our anthem and our veterans, but once in trouble, wants our country to help save her.

dshoberg 08-05-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 2122598)
Raw deal? She traveled to a country that enforces their laws. Remember when the USA used to do that! Here’s a person that continued to protest the “National Anthem” by keeling, yet she wants this Nation to bring here home. Her ignorance by bringing the drug, or stupidity by not considering that when she packed her luggage, will not be overlooked in many countries that choose to enforce their laws.

Right on!

gatman16 08-05-2022 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2122934)
She loved America enough to play for America in the Olympics. It is possible to for someone to "take a knee" to protest racism, which everyone knows exists........ and STILL love America.

She played in the Olympics for the glory and the medal. You don't disrespect the flag and the many veterans who died defending it because you LOVE the country.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-05-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gatman16 (Post 2122966)
She played in the Olympics for the glory and the medal. You don't disrespect the flag and the many veterans who died defending it because you LOVE the country.

1. People who died defending something aren't veterans. They're dead soldiers. Veterans are the ones who lived to tell about it.

2. They didn't die defending the flag. They died defending the freedom of our country's citizens. This includes the freedom to protest peacefully, and that includes the freedom to kneel.

There is nothing disrespectful about kneeling to peacefully protest when you feel the government is doing something wrong. There IS something disrespectful about pretending otherwise and weaponizing the flag.

bimmertl 08-05-2022 04:27 PM

Putin chose to punish Brittney Griner to exploit US culture wars

manaboutown 08-05-2022 04:44 PM

The USA will foolishly swap her out for far more valuable assets; Putin will come out way on top in the deal giving up a small time toker for one or more big time thugs. Then she'll find and pay some ghost writer to write a book about her Russian penal adventures and make some bucks and maybe some rubles off it. One thing is for sure, she is now world famous. Frankly I had never heard of her but I cannot remember the last time I watched a basketball game of any league, male or female. I doubt she could have dreamed up a better publicity stunt to make worldwide headlines and eventually cash in big time.

Maybe they'll make a movie of it!

YeOldeCurmudgeon 08-05-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2122594)
Although she exercised very poor judgment bringing that stuff to Russia, she is getting a really raw deal. That being said, it’s a very bad idea to exchange the merchant of death for her release. Doing that sends a strong message to Putin that he can keep snatching up American travelers and exchange them for his criminal thugs.

You realize the CIA has been dealing arms to third-world insurgents since the 1950s. But I guess that's ok because they're legally authorized to do covert deals. Very hypocritical to make a big deal out of releasing a Russian arms dealer when our own government has been doing it for decades.

And I thought what she had was just CBD in which there is little or no THC and which is totally legal in the U.S., though I maybe wrong about what she had.

It's all just a political ploy by Russia. She did nothing wrong; she simply made a mistake.

manaboutown 08-05-2022 07:18 PM

Looks like Griner is in the country club of Russian prisons. No gulag for her! She has her own bathroom and refrigerator and can order food on-line. Inside Brittney Griner's possible new home locked up in Russian prison

mtdjed 08-05-2022 07:37 PM

So, if one of us responding to this thread decided to go to some country, ignore their rules and laws, and be caught, charged and imprisoned, would we get national attention and prisoner exchange consideration?

Driller703 08-05-2022 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 2122598)
Raw deal? She traveled to a country that enforces their laws. Remember when the USA used to do that! Here’s a person that continued to protest the “National Anthem” by keeling, yet she wants this Nation to bring here home. Her ignorance by bringing the drug, or stupidity by not considering that when she packed her luggage, will not be overlooked in many countries that choose to enforce their laws.

Hates the USA, doesn’t want the National Anthem played. Wants the government to bring her “home”. Ooo -Kaaaaaaaaay!

Taltarzac725 08-05-2022 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2122981)
1. People who died defending something aren't veterans. They're dead soldiers. Veterans are the ones who lived to tell about it.

2. They didn't die defending the flag. They died defending the freedom of our country's citizens. This includes the freedom to protest peacefully, and that includes the freedom to kneel.

There is nothing disrespectful about kneeling to peacefully protest when you feel the government is doing something wrong. There IS something disrespectful about pretending otherwise and weaponizing the flag.


What our flag stands for are the values in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Rainger99 08-06-2022 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2123015)
Looks like Griner is in the country club of Russian prisons. No gulag for her! She has her own bathroom and refrigerator and can order food on-line. Inside Brittney Griner's possible new home locked up in Russian prison

I read the article. The country clubs in The Villages are much nicer!

biker1 08-06-2022 06:19 AM

Whether it is legal in the US is irrelevant. She did do something wrong; she violated Russian laws and she admitted it. She has been playing ball in Russia for several years. You would have thought she would be aware of the laws. You don't screw around with foreign drug laws.

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2123003)
You realize the CIA has been dealing arms to third-world insurgents since the 1950s. But I guess that's ok because they're legally authorized to do covert deals. Very hypocritical to make a big deal out of releasing a Russian arms dealer when our own government has been doing it for decades.

And I thought what she had was just CBD in which there is little or no THC and which is totally legal in the U.S., though I maybe wrong about what she had.

It's all just a political ploy by Russia. She did nothing wrong; she simply made a mistake.


kaseydog 08-06-2022 06:32 AM

She now has 9 years to ponder her poor choices starting with her disrespect of US by kneeling at Nation Anthem.

Dot Rheinhardt 08-06-2022 06:53 AM

She should have known what she packed. However, 6 months in a Russian prison might be the same as 2 years here. They haven't been trying to get the man out before now. Why is a basketball player more important.? Her letter went straight to Biden. If I wrote him about HR 82, it would never get to him.

Larchap49 08-06-2022 06:56 AM

Prison
 
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2122489)
How long will she spend in jail?

How long should she spend in jail?

For a non patriot that does not respect America or it's Flag and smuggled drugs, I don't really concern myself. Way more problems here at home to be concerned about.

Taltarzac725 08-06-2022 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Larchap49 (Post 2123083)
For a non patriot that does not respect America or it's Flag and smuggled drugs, I don't really concern myself. Way more problems here at home to be concerned about.


Just because someone salutes the US Flag hardly makes one a "patriot". All kinds of charlatans play with symbols which mean next to nothing to them.

I would say this woman cares for US values more than most.

NoMo50 08-06-2022 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2123003)
And I thought what she had was just CBD in which there is little or no THC and which is totally legal in the U.S., though I maybe wrong about what she had.

Reportedly, what she was carrying was hash oil, which is a super-refined version of marijuana. Much higher THC levels. Think Everclear vs Fireball.

Also, don't forget she PLED GUILTY. This was not some sham trial where she was railroaded by a kangaroo court. Folks may not agree with a foreign justice system or their sentencing guidelines, but she admitted her guilt, and is suffering the consequences within that system.

Stu from NYC 08-06-2022 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2123087)
Just because someone salutes the US Flag hardly makes one a "patriot". All kinds of charlatans play with symbols which mean next to nothing to them.

I would say this woman cares for US values more than most.

Sorry but she only cares for herself.

MSGirl 08-06-2022 07:34 AM

Griner
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2122594)
Although she exercised very poor judgment bringing that stuff to Russia, she is getting a really raw deal. That being said, it’s a very bad idea to exchange the merchant of death for her release. Doing that sends a strong message to Putin that he can keep snatching up American travelers and exchange them for his criminal thugs.

Her arrogance allowed her to bring her US legal drug to Russia ( actually only legal in the state she received it). And she deserves her sentence. But this situation is a double edge sword. She, and her teammates, should have never been allowed to go to Russia to play basketball, with the conflicts we are having with them. The statements made by this president to Putin seals the control Putin has over the Americans over there.

DeeCee Dubya 08-06-2022 07:44 AM

Well said man about!

mikeycereal 08-06-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2122531)
She should have watched " Midnight Express" before going.

Ha, those were exactly my thoughts.

YeOldeCurmudgeon 08-06-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gatman16 (Post 2122962)
I agree 100%. She disrespected our flag, our anthem and our veterans, but once in trouble, wants our country to help save her.

What a crock. The national anthem represents more than just the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It also represent 400 years of racism and a century of imperialism and imposing our power and influence on other nations -- which is why I detest the national anthem and "its rockets red glare and bombs bursting in air," which represents a nation of violence and is being reflected today as we speak. How much better to have "America the Beautiful with brotherhood from sea to shining sea" as our anthem.

manaboutown 08-06-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2123087)
I would say this woman cares for US values more than most.

You are joking right?

She did not want our National Anthem played at her games. She kneeled when it was played, openly disrespecting our country and what it stands for.

There is some serious irony here. She is asking our country, which happens to be her country, a country she hates, to get her out of jail for a crime she committed in a country that hates our country. Her arrogance is unbelievable! Let her rot in prison.

Keefelane66 08-06-2022 08:43 AM

I have a feeling if she was white, definitely would be a different story.

Caymus 08-06-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2123135)
I have a feeling if she was white, definitely would be a different story.


The news stories would be reduced to Paul Whelan's previous level. The media coverage of Griner's arrest was the best thing to happen to him.

Taltarzac725 08-06-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2123121)
You are joking right?

She did not want our National Anthem played at her games. She kneeled when it was played, openly disrespecting our country and what it stands for.


Our country stands for its history, laws, culture, etc. and not whether or not athletes chose to salute the US Flag. So what if they kneel. They do have the Freedom of Speech this represents. Which is one of the things this great country stands for and not the phony patriotism of wags on television trying to keep their ratings by pandering to the lowest instincts of people.

Pgcacace 08-06-2022 10:05 AM

Griner
 
It’s a rather harsh sentence but this is not the USA. She played in Russia for several summers. I’m surprised she didn’t learn any Russian. Cannabis is legal in some states but it is still illegal at the federal level which means she also was not allowed to cross state lines with it. Too bad for her that she did not get caught in the US with it. She would have gotten a slap on the wrist.
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