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Old 06-20-2023, 09:28 AM
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Not having being born in this country, I'm curious about what this means to members and what if anything they are doing to commemorate the day beyond it being a federal holiday.

Or, if it is so new, then perhaps there hasn't been enough time for traditions to form. It probably doesn't help that it is not a holiday for all.
Nothing.

It's not a real holiday, it's pandering / patronizing. Kinda sad.
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A better idea is to teach our kids more about American history including the good and the bad to get a better idea of how much we have advanced as a nation.
The South was good (still is), the North was bad (still is, more-or-less) . That's why 'yall carpetbaggers moved here. Now you're wrecking the South with your Yankee culture.
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Old 06-20-2023, 09:34 AM
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Is anybody who follows TOTV really surprised at how this thread is going?

Speaking of slavery, it has been a year since Roe v. Wade was overturned………

Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel The Handmaid’s Tale, published in 1985 as a work of fiction, is about a society where women are subjugated by patriarchal rule and have no reproductive rights……

If you have not, and never will read the book or watch the television version, at least take a look at the summary of the plotline…….then think about the past year’s headlines. Compare the two, do a little forward thinking, and see if your skin starts crawling in response to what we are seeing now as women’s rights are being shoved back 50 years.

Let’s face it, there is more behind the celebration of the demise of Roe than just the religious aspect. A big part of it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with figuratively smacking women back into “knowing their place.”

Yet, none dare call it slavery…….


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One possible reason that none dare call it slavery... slavery didn't involve "figuratively smacking," slavery involved actual owning, actual beating, and actual killing.

You don't like the recent ruling and neither do I but attempting to draw an equivalence to slavery will lead to arguments that distract from the real issue.
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Old 06-20-2023, 09:53 AM
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Nothing.

It's not a real holiday, it's pandering / patronizing. Kinda sad.
Yep, same here...fake holiday.
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All it means is “NO MAiL”,
Now there’s a reason to celebrate. No bills and garbage mail : )
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History should absolutely -not- be color blind. It should be inclusive, not exclusive. Atrocities were committed on a variety of peoples throughout history, American, European, World - of all races, all Nationalities, all religions, all ethnicities, all genders, disabilities, abilities, sexual preferences, marital status, lack of marital status. We need to accept these histories, learn OF them, and learn FROM them.

Otherwise it'll just continue to happen. Maybe black folks will be the "target du jour" again once we're done with the transgender trend. Or maybe all those anti-abortion nuts will start targeting women who don't have children, and start a brand new tirade a la Handmaid's Tale, berating them for not marrying and whelping the next generation. Or maybe they'll come back to the Jews. Or maybe it'll be the Irish again. Or the Italians again. Or maybe old people again.

Round and round it goes, where it stops, everyone knows. As long as we say "let's not talk about that, it is unpleasant and hey look how great we are now!" we will continue the cycle.
Just got out of 30-day forum jail this morning for a post that couldn't hold a candle to this one as far as insulting others. Since I am not allowed to point out when a particular side (can't name the side) is insulting others directly, just had to report it. Now, watch and see...nothing will be done, because it was only one particular group that was insulted. And they are fair game.

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Well, considering TV is a place where the vast majority of the residents hate people who aren't white, christian, and straight, you won't see much celebrating around here. Those of us who do care celebrate quietly. Don't want to rile the neighbors. I'm not flying a Pride flag in honor of my gay nephew for the same reason. The venom I hear coming out of the mouths of some of my neighbors scares me.
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It’s important to commemorate the day that African Americans were declared free from being enslaved.
Great post....except for the fact that it isn't what Juneteeth is.
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Old 06-20-2023, 10:32 AM
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Not having being born in this country, I'm curious about what this means to members and what if anything they are doing to commemorate the day beyond it being a federal holiday.

Or, if it is so new, then perhaps there hasn't been enough time for traditions to form. It probably doesn't help that it is not a holiday for all.
What does it mean to me? NOT MUCH. Another made up holiday like Kwanzaa. Having said that I do honor the soldiers on both sides that caught in the Civil War.
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One possible reason that none dare call it slavery... slavery didn't involve "figuratively smacking," slavery involved actual owning, actual beating, and actual killing.

You don't like the recent ruling and neither do I but attempting to draw an equivalence to slavery will lead to arguments that distract from the real issue.


Yes. Of course slavery was wrong and it was hell, but we’re done with that as a country now. And, of course, it should not be forgotten. We screwed up with years of denying equal education and when we denied returning WW2 veterans the loans for houses that white veterans could easily get. (Most of us “white people” here on TOTV have done just fine with our real estate equity over decades. But Black families were left behind as real estate took off when Black vets returned from WW2 and could not get loans for homes……

I know all that unfair history. It should not be swept away, but we need to move forward now. This Juneteenth celebration should not be hurting anything. But, of course, like so many other things, it is being used as a weapon to divide us. I have no problem with this new holiday. Let it be. But I sure am creeped out by some of the remarks here……though not surprised.

Back to your criticism of me. That was a knee-jerk reaction on your part……

So? How dare I use a metaphor? Why on earth would that have been taken literally?

But this is just an example of how moderates are jumped on by extremes from both sides, when we are actually the only hope for America’s future.

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PS: Btw, I hope you will track down that Freakonomics podcast I wrote about earlier in this thread somewhere. Even though the guy interviewed calls himself a conservative thinker, he is actually a moderate thinker — an endangered species.

Oh well, I’m done with this thread now that I have managed to pizz off both extremes, I guess my work here is done. Such is the life of a moderate. (sigh)

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Is anybody who follows TOTV really surprised at how this thread is going?

Speaking of slavery, it has been a year since Roe v. Wade was overturned………

Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel The Handmaid’s Tale, published in 1985 as a work of fiction, is about a society where women are subjugated by patriarchal rule and have no reproductive rights……

If you have not, and never will read the book or watch the television version, at least take a look at the summary of the plotline…….then think about the past year’s headlines. Compare the two, do a little forward thinking, and see if your skin starts crawling in response to what we are seeing now as women’s rights are being shoved back more than 50 years.

Let’s face it, there is more behind the celebration of the demise of Roe than just the religious aspect. A big part of it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with figuratively smacking women back into “knowing their place.” Not only will this affect the lives of poor women, it will also affect hiring practices and promotions for career women.

Yet, none dare call it slavery…….

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Sorry, not sorry, you (or any other woman) lost a made up constitutional right (meaning it wasn't a constitutional right) to kill babies in the womb for convenience. Yet, few dare call it murder.....
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Well, considering TV is a place where the vast majority of the residents hate people who aren't white, christian, and straight, you won't see much celebrating around here. Those of us who do care celebrate quietly. Don't want to rile the neighbors. I'm not flying a Pride flag in honor of my gay nephew for the same reason. The venom I hear coming out of the mouths of some of my neighbors scares me.
Start your post off with a lie (unless you have anything other than vitriol to back up your post) and then continue to attack throughout your post. Interesting how that is allowed on this forum. In case you were wondering, disagreeing with your opinion does not make something venomous. We are not required to support every idea that one side puts forth in America. Try again.

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Of all the made up holidays Cinco de Mayo is my favorite!
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