[CoachKandSportsguy]

Armed Guards and Shootings Plague Airbnb’s Party Ban | WIRED

That's the biggest problem with short term rentals,
the parties have moved from a hotel to a private residence. . .

something that CCDs should consider enforcing their covenants

[JGibson]

I'm telling you the only way the developer or district does something is to file a
lawsuit against them.

At this junction, they just don't care.

TV is beautiful but I ponder if a smaller truly gated retirement community would’ve been a better idea.

I have a relative who lives in a gated community that doesn't allow any short-term rentals and to get past the 24hr gate guard he has to call the person you’re visiting and you have to show your ID which will be scanned.

I hate to be one of those TV is getting too big persons but it really is and too big to enforce any short-term rental rules if they were to ever implement any.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by JGibson

I'm telling you the only way the developer or district does something is to file a
lawsuit against them.

At this junction, they just don't care.

TV is beautiful but I ponder if a smaller truly gated retirement community would’ve been a better idea.

I have a relative who lives in a gated community that doesn't allow any short-term rentals and to get past the 24hr gate guard he has to call the person you’re visiting and you have to show your ID which will be scanned.

I hate to be one of those TV is getting too big persons but it really is and too big to enforce any short-term rental rules if they were to ever implement any.

Nothing will change unless new home sales drop significantly.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by JGibson

I'm telling you the only way the developer or district does something is to file a
lawsuit against them.

At this junction, they just don't care.

TV is beautiful but I ponder if a smaller truly gated retirement community would’ve been a better idea.

I have a relative who lives in a gated community that doesn't allow any short-term rentals and to get past the 24hr gate guard he has to call the person you’re visiting and you have to show your ID which will be scanned.

I hate to be one of those TV is getting too big persons but it really is and too big to enforce any short-term rental rules if they were to ever implement any.

Is TV too big not to fail?

Boomer

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Is TV too big not to fail?

Boomer

Or is it too big and it will eventually fail?

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Is TV too big not to fail?

Boomer

It cannot be both a retirement community and a spring break party destination. If it loses it’s reputation as a retirement community who knows?

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Is TV too big not to fail?

Boomer

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Or is it too big and it will eventually fail?

Aw, gee, I was in a hurry. That wording I used needs clarification. I meant what you just said.

Is TV too big to not fail??? Not sure that one is worded right either???


Oh well…….I will just go ahead and say what I was trying to say — but will say it in a whole buncha words.

My opinion? (I am ducking now.) I think those who have been in TV for a while, and are settled in, have seen the best of the place, but can continue to enjoy it, if the place still works for them.

I think those thinking of buying in new better be aware of how huge it is and the issues that can cause. The ever-touted “Lifestyle” has been changing due to the unending sprawl.

I also think the damned AirB&B routine will not go away. It used to be that some people bought before retirement and used longterm renting to defray costs for a while. That was accepted.

But, now, it looks like buying is happening for the purpose of ongoing renting, short or long. It will never be reined in because the developer does not care. It’s about selling houses because that is where the profit is and, of course, there can never be enough profit.

Any thought of residents being able to change that is not likely to have the outcome of David v. Goliath.

The “family vacation” thing seems to be catching on, too.

TV will work for some retirees, but the place sure is not what it used to be. Potential buyers just need to be aware that maybe, just maybe, bigger is not better. The failing thing will be relative to the individual’s take on it. And ‘take’ might be the operative word in that one.

Boomer

[alwann]

What with spring break, summer vacations, holidays, Airbnb rentals and hundreds of people from neighboring developments enjoying the free entertainment and restaurants, The Villages is losing its look and feel as a retirement community. There's no slow season anymore. The cost of living is way up for amenities, utilities, taxes, recreation, home maintenance. Sooner or later, potential buyers spending time in The Villages might have second thoughts about living here. I wonder if the developer has any clue as to where the tipping point is.

[Stu from NYC]

Still a very quiet community in the villages where we are.

[LuvNH]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Aw, gee, I was in a hurry. That wording I used needs clarification. I meant what you just said.

Is TV too big to not fail??? Not sure that one is worded right either???


Oh well…….I will just go ahead and say what I was trying to say — but will say it in a whole buncha words.

My opinion? (I am ducking now.) I think those who have been in TV for a while, and are settled in, have seen the best of the place, but can continue to enjoy it, if the place still works for them.

I think those thinking of buying in new better be aware of how huge it is and the issues that can cause. The ever-touted “Lifestyle” has been changing due to the unending sprawl.

I also think the damned AirB&B routine will not go away. It used to be that some people bought before retirement and used longterm renting to defray costs for a while. That was accepted.

But, now, it looks like buying is happening for the purpose of ongoing renting, short or long. It will never be reined in because the developer does not care. It’s about selling houses because that is where the profit is and, of course, there can never be enough profit.

Any thought of residents being able to change that is not likely to have the outcome of David v. Goliath.

The “family vacation” thing seems to be catching on, too.

TV will work for some retirees, but the place sure is not what it used to be. Potential buyers just need to be aware that maybe, just maybe, bigger is not better. The failing thing will be relative to the individual’s take on it. And ‘take’ might be the operative word in that one.

Boomer

Agree, and it is a shame to see such a wonderful concept go down the drain due to need for money.It seems to me that no matter how much wealth the very rich have, they always seem to need more. The answer may be that great wealth brings great power, and if you have power you can basically do anything you want to do and break any rules you want to break. Unfortunately, there is no amount of talk that will change anything at this point. My home is in the mid to northern part and we seem to stay pretty stable, but many of my neighbors are passing and who knows who will buy their homes.

[Michael G.]

I just can't picture TV turning into a complete orgy community anytime soon.
By complete, I mean over 80%.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Still a very quiet community in the villages where we are.

Same here. Tables available in the restaurants and space in the squares. Haven't seen a 200 person party at a rental since....... well, ever.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I don't know if AirBnB forwards local taxes to the tax office or not. If they don't, then you can certainly go after the landlords of short-term rentals by reporting them to the local tax office. The developer doesn't control what the tax collector does, and does not do. The developer might not care if someone is renting their home short-term, but the tax collector definitely cares.

The assessor's office also cares, because if the house is getting homestead exemption, and is used as a rental property, the office might have a thought or two on that. If it's listed as a residential property and is being used as a business/investment property, the assessor's office AND the zoning office might have a word to say about it.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Same here. Tables available in the restaurants and space in the squares. Haven't seen a 200 person party at a rental since....... well, ever.

Do we know anyone who would organize one?

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Do we know anyone who would organize one?

The total head count at rentals is not the issue. Usually it is something like a family of 6, spring breakers with 4 -8, etc. They have no respect for private property, are disruptive, loud, abuse alcohol, and are prone to do things like racing bikes in the middle of the street, overpacking themselves into golf carts, chicken contests at pools, etc. Remember when we were young? Same thing going on here. Dangerous and loud horse play! Safety is never a concern.