[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

There is no doubt that it is incompetence.

There is no doubt. that it wasn't incompetence. It was the situation overtaking all reasonable contingency planning.

[jfkilduff]

Because an American family was trying to get out when we left and now has to be smuggled out!!!! According to a senator

Originally Posted by dewilson58

What is the logic of leaving Americans and Allies behind???

If it's political, just state "political" and let the thread live.

Otherwise, what is the logic???

People first, Equipment second, Troops last seem logical.

There is no logic to it. A result of a poorly executed evacuation delayed from May to August for a 9/11 photo op.

[Bellavita]

Sacrifice more young men and women in an in winnable situation? I would make this decision and go back or use leverage to get Americans out. Let’s not forget what we did accomplish 125,000 out that is remarkable. Biden got out period sometimes that exit isn’t pretty.

Originally Posted by dewilson58

What is the logic of leaving Americans and Allies behind???

If it's political, just state "political" and let the thread live.

Otherwise, what is the logic???

People first, Equipment second, Troops last seem logical.

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[I'm Popeye!]

The Taliban taking credential papers from American citizens, interpreters and their families, forcing them to stay in Afghanistan is a hostage situation. The American troops should've gone in and rescue its people before leaving, period!

[I'm Popeye!]

Originally Posted by Bellavita

Let’s not forget what we did accomplish 125,000 out that is remarkable. Biden got out period sometimes that exit isn’t pretty.

Yes, and the United States government don't even know who half of those 125K people are.

[Holpat39]

Logically the move would have been people removed first, military equipment either removed or dismantled and troops last. It seems announcement was troops first, forget about dismantling equipment and people last. Not a wise move. They had plenty of time to start the process of removing citizens when Biden announced sometime in April that the extract date was 8/31/2021

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by I'm Popeye!

Yes, and the United States government don't even know who half of those 125K people are.

About a hundred thousand possible terrorists, but who's counting.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Yes they all get the credit for doing all the legwork, the physical work, the strategic planning, logistics, arrangements.

But they wouldn't have done any of it if the President hadn't said "okay let's do that." He could've said no. He made the tough decision to say yes. He's being lambasted for it.

So if you want to give all those people the "credit" for doing it, then you need to accept that certain of the American citizenry are blaming Biden for all the things that went wrong - when - according to you, he didn't do anything at all. It was all those other people who did it all.

“Yes okay let’s do that backwards.” Remove troops first. Oops send more troops back in. Brilliant.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

True, but there are always contingency plans written in. Even the military members that I know said it is plainly a cluster **** as bad as the assault on Iran way back. Probably going to be worse unless they can pull a rabbit out of their @$$ and pull off a miracle. The way it looks, quite a few will be left behind.

Wasn't there a person they had captured and was suppose to be part if the deal.....was he released?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Byte1

About a hundred thousand possible terrorists, but who's counting.

And your numbers are based on ??????

We do know how many terrorists were released as part of the deal, and that included the “big guy”, the actual leader of the Taliban who we were told we should never trust but negotiated with them.

Look, you can search for blame, but this was never ever going to go smoothly, Calling names, as I read on here which is typical solves nothing. None of us were there and all the constant twisting on certain networks will not make anything any better. Had the past administration even talked to the current administration, perhaps, it might have changed a bit.

Remember, in my memory, this is the first administration to leave office and not brief the incoming.
Administration (intelligence, etc.)

Maybe made no difference but I am not sure what those who are calling people names know that everyone else is dumb on, but this had no chance from the get go and I mean from years ago.

[Bay Kid]

It is all part of their plan. We surrender.... Everything about this evacuation seems to be about helping the enemy.

[Taltarzac725]

The U.S. destroyed or 'demilitarized' all equipment left at Kabul airport, depriving the Taliban of more trophies | The Week

They did make the military equipment unusable for it specific purposes.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The U.S. destroyed or 'demilitarized' all equipment left at Kabul airport, depriving the Taliban of more trophies | The Week

They did make the military equipment unusable for it specific purposes.

AT THE AIRPORT. Not all the military equipment. Just the airport.