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It seems with all the people that are hired to advise on the evacuation, everything possible is being done. Being that the public shouldn't be privvy to every move made due to security reasons, maybe being a Monday morning quarterback should be on hold for the time being. We are out of a 20 year war and tough decisions have to be made. I guess we could have just evacuated like we did with the Kurds and left everyone behind. Apparently, that was acceptable.
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THAT is a 'stain of shame,' that can never be washed away. |
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Without knowing the alternatives, you can not say if they did poorly. You can only say the results are awful. |
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Thank you for your service and the insight. Last edited by Aces4; 08-30-2021 at 12:10 PM. |
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And, also, I EXPECT/THINK the plan was to trust the Afgan military to hold for at least a few weeks or months so we could transfer security to them as we pulled out. What appears to have happened is the Taliban told the Afgan military, stand down and accept a bribe or die. And they chose to stand down. At least that is what appears to have happened. If so, yes, it was a serious mistake to trust them - I don't know what we did, if we did. It is just conjecture on my part. |
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So it is your position that any US Citizen who wants to leave, and has expressed that the/she wants to leave, will be gotten out? |
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We have hundreds and hundreds of military personnel strategizing, strategizing, What If'g, What If'g and yet we are told..............."No one predicted an early collapse of the good guys / the quick take-over of the bad guys." (the chicken vs. the egg)
I can't buy this.
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The conversation has NOTHING to do with patriotism and your support for whichever political group you imply. And do not even imply that anyone other than you is a patriot. I am not complaining about how it was handled, merely pointed out that emergency evacuation plans are available and should have been adhered to. I know they exist because I have been part of the planning and writing such plans for several countries. I do not know of ANY military member that suggests that this operation has been done by SOP or that it has even been successful. Hopefully, for our American citizens, things will work out. Anyone in that country now, surely has a plan to exit that country, along with contingency plans. I will bet that many that are now stranded or blocked from getting to the airport, have plans to travel to the border. Some of the contracted folks will likely count on their company to furnish an evacuation team that will swoop in and rescue them. Most likely, any gov employees have been evacuated already. In my opinion, if it had been left to the military to handle, the evacuation would have gone much more smoothly. And yes, it IS Monday and the count down is moving swift. Personally, I am glad we are leaving that Mad Max country that is hardly good for anything. It is unfortunate that the women and children have to suffer, but that country does not wish to be tamed. |
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Incompetence.
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It is either incompetence, or uncaring disregard for the lives of US Citizens and Allies who are being abandoned. Regrettably it seems a cold uncaring disregard. When asked about the people falling to their death from planes as they tried to escape the Taliban, Biden said "C'mon man, that was four or five days ago". I can not be too hard on him, as I believe he has a mental issue. Those who defend him on the other hand... Just terrible people. So desperate to make it seem like they have accomplished something that they turn their backs on men, women and children. |
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Those of us that have get your point perfectly....NO man left behind....EVER! |
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An estimated 300 US people are "stuck" in Afghanistan that would prefer to leave. Leaving by aircraft became difficult because the Taliban delayed Americans at checkpoints and ask for their names and addresses. Many found out about that practice and stayed at home. Others that may have gotten through the checkpoints were stopped by crowds at the gates. Basically, chaos prevailed!
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My guess, is that EVERYONE on this post is GUESSING! What is the point. Why after 20 years of training Afghans, did they lay down their arms. I'm glad it's almost over. Can't think of any reason we are there to settle THEIR civil war.
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what I don't understand is that the treaty with the taliban was signed in Feb, of 2020... why didn't American citizens start leaving then?? also why were most of the armed forces removed before the evacuations were complete??
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I agree with you, and I read an article that indicated the Taliban was bribing afghan soldiers to lay down their weapons. That would make sense to me, but I don't know.
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