[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Didn't you stomp off in a huff a week or so ago because this place was a cesspool? I guess you felt the need to come back and do some more wallowing.

Yes I did, and the administrators helped by making it a 2 week mandatory go stand in the corner.

[GrumpyOldMan]

So what is the point of this thread? American mfgrs have abandoned plants in the US because it is more profitable to make them overseas and sell them here. Seems like capitalism at work to me.

Buying something BECAUSE it was made in America as opposed to because it is the best price and quality seems dumb to me. Kind of like voting based on party instead of candidates qualifications. I am registered NPA and always vote for the person and not a party. The same goes for my purchases.

[Geodyssey]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

So what is the point of this thread? American mfgrs have abandoned plants in the US because it is more profitable to make them overseas and sell them here. Seems like capitalism at work to me.

Buying something BECAUSE it was made in America as opposed to because it is the best price and quality seems dumb to me. Kind of like voting based on party instead of candidates qualifications. I am registered NPA and always vote for the person and not a party. The same goes for my purchases.

In the USA, nothing is more important than making money. Not family, not nation. Just keep making money. It's how score is kept. And we're #1.

[carhirsch]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Do we make anything in America anymore? Seems like everything is made in other countries.

Read the book Made in China. You’ll be appalled at the cost in human suffering to produce those cheap items. It’s a quandary. We want the least expensive items and often can’t find what we’re looking for that’s made in America. Still someone in China is paying a dear price producing said item.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Geodyssey

In the USA, nothing is more important than making money. Not family, not nation. Just keep making money. It's how score is kept. And we're #1.

Sadly I agree with you…

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by carhirsch

Read the book Made in China. You’ll be appalled at the cost in human suffering to produce those cheap items. It’s a quandary. We want the least expensive items and often can’t find what we’re looking for that’s made in America. Still someone in China is paying a dear price producing said item.

I agree with you. It used to be in factories here and people got fed up and demanded change. The same ids happening in China now.

[Westie Man]

there were four factory workers for every government worker. 100 years later it's 1 to 1.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Westie Man

there were four factory workers for every government worker. 100 years later it's 1 to 1.

Interesting, I was not aware of that. Thank you

[SacDQ]

Most military spending is for made in America equipment. Other than that not very much. Not even our food staples are from the USA. Next time you grocery shop read the labels. Supporting the weekend farmers market is the best place to still find USA PRODUCE

[jbartle1]

I have the makings of a "MADE IN AMERICA FRUIT salad growing in my yard" bananas and pineapple, does that count??????

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

Yes but we have become accustomed to cheap products and have become used to products that break.

Example: retractable cord reels. Those extension cords that hang high in the garage/shop ready to power any tool. Chinese made (home Depot) 79.00 to 129.00.

US made (ReelCraft brand) 349.00.

I have American made ones, it's one less item to fail. Mathematically it is foolish. The pain of buying quality is felt once. Breakdowns are felt repeatedly.

That is perfectly TRUE for many, many items. Quality tools are often worth their extra cost. Sometimes American-made tools are the best and reasonable. Craftsman tools control their design and provide some quality control over their products even while being made overseas. Same for other traditional brands. I wonder if all Harley Davidsons are made totally in the US?
IMO the Japanese brand automobiles and trucks are superior to the big US three - especially in reliability, resale value, and quality.
I would like the US government and US Chamber of Commerce to champion and reward US manufacturers more. The software and digital superiority of US businesses are GREAT. But, in the event of a war or other disaster, it would be better to be less dependant on China and other overseas countries. it would also help to control our US balance of trade and payments deficit. I know that we trade very much with Canada, but maybe EVEN MORE would be in order - because of low shipping cost and we can better depend on them.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

How many touters of American Made on this thread are posting via an American Made device?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"Made in America" purchases will only come back in vogue, when people are willing to pay more (often a LOT more) for essentially the same products. It's simply common sense, that if you're paying employees more - then the cost of the goods or services will most likely be more. In essence, we have only ourselves to blame for the amount of foreign made services/goods, when we prioritize price. The ultimate irony being, that those foreign countries making so many of our products are simply trying to follow the old American model - of creating a burgeoning middle class/strong economy.

The more countries have middle classes, the fewer Dictatorships the world has - and therefore, a more stable world society.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by frose

we don't even make americans in america anymore, just socialists and marxist wanna be's.. such a shame.

That is pretty negative and hard to analyze logically - since 100% of Americans can't possibly be socialists or Marxists.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

But. Will you care when robots eliminates cashiers jobs? Well, not now right?

A.I. and robotics could easily cause 30 % unemployment by 2050. So, yes there will be robotic checkouts. They basically have that now. Life changes and it is changing more rapidly every year. And it is a BIG reason for social stress today.