[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Taurus510

We’ll, you claim to be an ex-hunter, then follow that up with an ignorant statement about “automatic” weapons. There are already many restrictions on automatic weapons. If you wish to own one, you have to go through an EXTENSIVE background check, the local sheriff has to personally vouch for you, then you will pay thousands just for the license to own an automatic weapon. Are you claiming that you hunted with automatic weapons?

I went through the sheriff interview, having my family and friends interviewed, got the psych eval and finally went before a judge to get a regular carry in NYC. And you are 100% correct about automatic weapons. Been illegal.impossoible for close to 100 years now

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Reiver

The Girandoni air rifle was an airgun designed by Tyrolian inventor Bartholomäus Girandoni circa 1779. It was used on the Lewis and Clark Expedition in the early 1800s.
It was capable of discharging it's entire 20 shot capacity in less than 30 seconds.

The first successful design for a semi-automatic rifle is attributed to Austria-born gunsmith Ferdinand Ritter von Mannlicher, who unveiled the design in 1885.

Why are these antique weapons suddenly a modern problem?

We are not allowed to say.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Please don't get cute, this is a very serious problem.

It is a serious problem that we are not allowed to discuss. Until that changes we will have the problem. Taking guns from law abiding citizens will not solve it.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

Automatic weapons have been illegal for almost 100 Years now.

Not illegal in some states. but very very expensive and hard to get permits.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

It is a serious problem that we are not allowed to discuss. Until that changes we will have the problem. Taking guns from law abiding citizens will not solve it.

This always comes up?

WHO is taken guns from law bidding citizens? I would love it, but even I know that is a none starter. But, people constantly bring it up, fear is a real motivator.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

Every “Mass Shooting” someone simply MUST start a thread….

Yes, and some of old same olds have add there 15 posts complementing each other thinking there opinions going to make difference.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

Automatic weapons have been illegal for almost 100 Years now.

As was pointed out to me in the last mass shooting, automatic weapons are not illegal, they are just harder to buy.

And your answer did not contribute. I expect the poster you replied to meant semi-automatic, since automatic weapons are not a big problem.

And then you can make it clear that any gun that you can repeatedly pull the trigger and fire is a semi-automatic, just to be pedantic.

The fact is single shot derringers are seldom used in mass shootings.

And gun control does work, as Gov. Newsome pointed out on Truth Social a little while back, the most unregulated states (Red states) also have the most per capita shooting deaths. Or conversely the most regulated states (Blue states) have the lowest per capita gun death rate.

[billethkid]

The capability of the gun IS NOT and HAS NOT been the problem!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by billethkid

The capability of the gun IS NOT and HAS NOT been the problem!

Of course not.

But then again, why let the facts get in the way of a good rant?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by billethkid

The capability of the gun IS NOT and HAS NOT been the problem!

So, what is the problem? I see a lot of posts in a lot of threads telling us what will not work, what is not the problem, why we are wrong. Never anything about solving the problem - oh, wait, MORE GUNS that will solve the problem. Even though we have the highest gun ownership in the world every administration of either party sells more guns than the previous and yet, the problem keeps getting worse.

So, please enlighten us how do we stop murdering each other and our children?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

So, what is the problem? I see a lot of posts in a lot of threads telling us what will not work, what is not the problem, why we are wrong. Never anything about solving the problem - oh, wait, MORE GUNS that will solve the problem. Even though we have the highest gun ownership in the world every administration of either party sells more guns than the previous and yet, the problem keeps getting worse.

So, please enlighten us how do we stop murdering each other and our children?

Humans have been murdering each other since Cain and Able.

The problem is crazy people and some had red flags out the whazoo and multiple system failure’s. Agree some restrictions to rifle round capabilities should not be over 5 rounds. But any regulations or laws will only be enforced by law biding citizens. The crazies will find a way. Have to find way to stop the insane. Claiming insanity to get out of death row is not one way.

[MrFlorida]

When a drunk driver kills , do you want to ban cars ?

[tophcfa]

One only needs to open their eyes to see the root cause of problems. Killer was a self proclaimed rapper with a long and disturbing social media presence.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

When a drunk
driver kills , do you want to ban cars ?

But they could ban alcohol 🍺… o wait, they tried that..

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

As was pointed out to me in the last mass shooting, automatic weapons are not illegal, they are just harder to buy.

And your answer did not contribute. I expect the poster you replied to meant semi-automatic, since automatic weapons are not a big problem.

And then you can make it clear that any gun that you can repeatedly pull the trigger and fire is a semi-automatic, just to be pedantic.

The fact is single shot derringers are seldom used in mass shootings.



And gun control does work, as Gov. Newsome pointed out on Truth Social a little while back, the most unregulated states (Red states) also have the most per capita shooting deaths. Or conversely the most regulated states (Blue states) have the lowest per capita gun death rate.

Yep, Gov. Newsome one we should be listen too.